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Zeroing a scope

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by m4tth3w, Jan 29, 2014.

  1. m4tth3w

    m4tth3w Donator

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    I was in the garage trying to zero my hew air rifle and scope. And no matter what i did it was aiming too high (pellet dropped) but whatever setting i used it didnt change.

    is there a minimum distance for target cos i was sat in my garage firing to other end which is prob 4 yards
     
  2. gasman

    gasman Up a bit,,,,,,,

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    4 yards an't going to work, you probably get away with 15 yards
     
  3. Lee67

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    Yes..lol...at 4 yards I would need174 clicks pmsl..u need to start at 15 yards..then move onto 30/35 yards to do it right...once u have your zero at 35 yards..u can then work out your holdover / hold under for 10,15,20,25,30,40,45,50,55...... I've been over to our club this aft and done my new scope in 30mins..all set and zero'd at35 yards and all my aim points
     
  4. m4tth3w

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    Ah right it will have to wait while i get to the range then as not doing it in the garden as neighbours a copper lol
     
  5. Wild Bill

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    This is a joke surely? No one would try and zero their scope at 4 yds? :yield::coffee:
     
  6. terry1001

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    You can't realistically zero the scope at 4 yards but you can get it roughly right so that you're on the paper at 15 yards. The windage isn't going to be far out at any range but the elevation will change a lot, if you've got a fairly normal set-up you will probably hit about 1" low at 4 yards. If you want to check it out you can look up the drop at different ranges in Chairgun Pro.
     
  7. Dag

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    Sounds like you are far too close. Just think what angle your scope would need to be for the line of sight through it to intersect with the line of your barrel. Your scope is probably about 1.75" above the barrel and it is trying to intersect at 12ft away. If I look at Chairgun and try to get a zero distance of only 8yds/24ft it shows the pellet to be just under an inch below the line of sight at 4yds/12ft. Others might disagree but I think you would have to make a considerable adjustment to your scope mounts to get anything like a 4yd zero.
    I fire from my garage out into the garden at 15yds, the curve of the trajectory gives me a secondary zero of 33yds. If you play around with Chairgun it will give you a good idea of what you can achieve.
    atb
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  8. Dag

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    Why not have a word with him about what you are trying to achieve. If he can see you are shooting safely and have no fear of pellet leaving property ie you have adequate backstop, pellet trap etc, then he should have no worries. At least he will understand you are a safe shooter and not worry about the sound of plinking without knowing what you are up to. Wait for the flack to descend on me for suggesting this!!!
    Dag
    ps Or show him you are firing from garden into pellet trap in garage which would be safer still
    pps When this rain stops of course!
     
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  9. Accuspell

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    Whatever difference does that make. If anything it means you will get LESS hassle from the neighbours, especially if you talk to them, than if they were ignorant of the law ordinary folks.

    Get yourself a good backstop organised, so the pellet stays in your garden with no chance of a richochet. Try and quieten the pellet catcher down with some old rags or carpet hanging to slow the pellet. Tell him what you are going to do, just pop round and say,
    "I just thought I would let you know I have taken up shooting and will, from time to time, be doing some target practise in the garden with my air rifle. i will do my best to keep it quiet and not disturb you too much."

    THERE IS NOTHING HE OR ANYONE ELSE CAN DO TO STOP YOU, provided your rifle is legal power and you don't make a nuisance with continuous noise of pellets hitting tins. Whether he likes it or not, you have as much right to do this as grow runner beans! :up:


    the trouble is, people don't talk to their neighbours anymore. He might be a Policeman, but he is also a human being, he just happens to uphold the law for a living....what do you do to make ends meet?

    Dag beat me to it - I was still typing!
     
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  10. mattyts

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    Aslong as your gun conforms to law,you have a decent backstop/boundary and you're not near public highways,use your backgarden :up:
     
  11. Accuspell

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    CAVEAT....to Dag, myself and Mattys replies. They are all valid PROVIDED THE AGE LIMITATIONS ARE MET. We didn't ask your age, so cheeck if at your age you MUST have parental supervision (or older person of 21 or over).
     
  12. m4tth3w

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    Yep I'm a bit thick with all this. Haven't done shooting with a scope before but done a lot of clay pigeon shooting.

    just not used to scopes. Bit of a pisser my s200 didnt come with metal sights like the 78 does

    and as regards neighbours it's more a point that I don't want to be seen by neighbours with a gun in my hand as they have small children and I just feel it would have a negative vibe
     
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    They don't come with iron sights unless your doing Olympic target shooting with specialist rifles but you will probably be putting out smaller groups with decent optics so don't worry.
     
  14. m4tth3w

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    To be fair the pellets were going thru the same holes just a few cm below the bullseye so the gun is very accurate but now I think of line of sight with the scope it makes sense and I feel a bit silly!

    although I fiddled with the scope that much to no avail that I'll probably be shooting sideways now lol
     
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    Just move the elevation 5 clicks,take a couple of shots and keep repeating till it's fine tuned
     
  16. Dag

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    Not at all! You are asking the same sort of questions I was asking 6 months ago. Keep asking, and keep searching on this forum.
    atb
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    Personally id never tell a copper anything.... Never trust one..

    Zero it in down the range mate... Itll be for the best..!!
     
  18. Accuspell

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    Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. :D
     
  19. gasman

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    why? are misbehaving?
     
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    Usually if you start at 10mtrs(11yds) and get it zeroed at that range it's not too far off at 25-30 yds,just needs a few clicks to get it spot on
     

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