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YUKON PHOTON 5 X 42.

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by leecraw66, Apr 26, 2014.

  1. leecraw66

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    Posted a thread a while ago asking for forums views on the Yukon Photon. Most were in favour. Many thanks to those who gave me guidance, one sticks out, Terry. Dusted the credit card off, yesterday morning and rang round to see who had one in stock. Not many, found Outdoor sports in Leigh Lancs. An absolute Alladdins Cave. Really nice people. Bought one and the mounts. Had a tinker with it last night. Then decided to read the instructions. That enlightened me, I found out it had a forward large focus, not the reticle focus, that I was using.:rolleyes: Anyway mounted it on the Air rifle this morning, it was like adding a new scope. So easy. Bearing in mind I have been using a VOMZ PN 4.6 X 52 Night Sight for the last 10 years. Nothing wrong with this but its a sit and wait sight, not really a walk round all night, especially not on a HW80. ( a pretty hefty weight together, am not getting any younger these days ) Saying that it has done me good for 10 years.
    After the weekly shopping:( had a fake panic attack and ooffed of to zero the yukon photon in, A man on a mission. It took me 20 mins at the most. An absolute Gem, could not believe it, so easy. UP meant UP and LEFT meant LEFT, not like the VOMZ which was opposite of what you wanted. This was done in daylight, the same as you can do with the Vomz with the cover over the front lense. The Yukon is far superior in picture quality and focusing to what I am used to.

    I cannot wait to try it out tomorrow night...... weather permitting.


    Lee.
     
  2. terry1001

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    Look forward to hearing how you get on.
     
  3. leecraw66

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    Thanks Terry
    Will keep you informed.
    Lee.
     
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    I been thinking of getting one of these for a while, seen them in shop in daylight but never at night.
    let us know how you go on next couple of weeks, battery life and that.
     
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    I'm picking one up tomorrow, Hopefully I'll get on okay with it...End of day it's £400 not £2000 so if it's no good I'll only lose 12% instead of the usual 50% I generally accept losing on trade in's.... Oh man.........:eek:
     
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    I'm the same as you guys about buying one of these but I'm not sure whether to go for one or a Nitesite NS200 or the newer version whatever that's called as the similar set up DIY NV I have been using has been quite good.
     
  7. leecraw66

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    Will do .You must have big Nads to sport an Avartar like that. Barcelona 69 must have missed you.
     
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    Lol, train hard and play hard.
    yes we have keyboard clashed in the past but tbh he seems like a decent bloke.
     
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    Only problem with the screen type nv is that they light you up and make you easily seen.
    i had alot of help from kenhawker in making one, would like to try out the yukon at night, see how they are.
     
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    Fair play, yes you are right, a decent bloke.
     
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    MM - Car window tint or neutral density filter takes care of that, and most monitors also have a dimmer too.
     
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    I also recently purchased a Yukon, only been able to have a play with it in the day - seems ok. battery life seems to be about 2 hours continuous (ish).

    just ordered the flip up covers so that I can make a better day filter for it (Thanks Terry).

    I think a .177 and the yukon will make a good partnership.

    cheers
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    Why not keep your DIY NV and buy a photon also. I find the screen type Nite site NV is great in a static position almost like video gaming when sat ratting in a barn! But once you start moving over ground it's a pain in the arse. Get's knocked, have to hold the rifle way in front to focus my eye on the screen (probably my age) The bloody tube to the camera constantly needs adjusting. The only people who seem to rate them are usually on a you tube video 'trialing' one for the makers. Hmm.
     
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    Mostly fair comment but you should be able to fix your camera so that it doesn't move around, the screen can be a bit of a pain and a swing out one (like the Pitch Black has) would make that a bit nicer to use. If only the laser on the Photon weren't ruined by the regulations on lasers it would be much more compact, I believe it can be improved but I don't know how it's done. As it is both systems need a torch attached which can also add to the size of your outfit but isn't as delicate as the screen.
    All night vision systems suffer from a monochrome display which has nowhere near the contrast or sharpness of a quality day scope. There's usually less field of view as well because you don't get everything illuminated as you do in daylight. This all makes it more difficult to judge range and the Photon doesn't have the multi aom points found in most day scopes. All of this means that it does take time and effort to get used to using any nv equipment - maybe it would be worth having some competitions using nv at night, that would be something a bit different.
     
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    What's the best way/system for securing the photon to a rifle (most likely my 17HMR) so that it can be taken off and replaced with a proper scope for daytime use without the need to totally go through the process of having to re-zero again (slight adjustment acceptable)?

    I've seen various comments about weaver/picatinny rail systems but I don't really understand the differences between them and standard 11mm rails and what they can offer as all the rifles I've got have standard 11mm scope rails on them.
     
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    Picatinny rails are made to a US military standard (or should be) which gives the spec for the rail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picatinny_rail. Weaver is primarily the parts that go onto the rail but weaver rails may well have different spacings and sizes. It's a more robust system than the standard 11mm dovetails but really there's no reason why it should be any more accurate for replacing a sight.
    The answer is good mounts which are well made and are a good fit to the dovetail - the same angle for the mating faces and no burrs etc to interfere with proper seating. The fixed part of the dovetail should always go into the same place if everything fits together as it should and the moving half simply clamps it up.
    Changing scope (or fitting new) is when I usually check with a laser bore sighter. I have one which is aligned properly between the bore and the laser so it doesn't matter how it goes into the bore and I have checked with a properly zeroed rifle so I know where the laser dot should be relative to the crosshairs on a convenient target.
    Basically, if you have good mounts, you should be able to remove and replace a scope and still be pretty well zeroed, certainly within a few clicks and the sort of thing you can quickly dial in when you get to your shoot and check zero.
    You can put picatinny to 11mm adapters on your rifle(s) and then use lower weaver type mounts but most of the adapters I've seen have been fairly poor quality, you can possibly get different bases on your HMR, depending on make, which could be screwed to the receiver (some are drilled and tapped already).
    If you decide to use the standard mounts to try and see what happens it would be a good idea to try and set the mounts on the scope/rifle so that there is a good reference mark for when you change the scopes over.
     
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    I use an NS200, and if set up right do not have a problem, with the screen mounted on the side you can shoot with the gun in the shoulder, glare is shielded by the breech and filters, and it does the job

    I also use glasses (oldie) :D
     
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    I have the same NS200, the problems seem to come climbing over gates footpath stiles at night. With the best intentions it's extremely difficult to avoid the slightest nudge knocking the rubber camera tube off position (for me at least). I've today bought a Photon, haven't looked at yet and will have to wait a couple of days for the extra IR lamp to arrive for it, then it's going on a pictanny rail on my CZ so I can swap day and night scopes quickly.
    I think (hope) it'll be a good solution for the fields and keep my NS200 which I do like for static shooting.

    Cheers :up:
     
  19. leecraw66

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    Been out tonight with the Yukon Photon. Once I had got used to it, it is an impressive bit of kit, ideal for what I want it for. Took a 3/4 grown bunny out to 30 yards, clear as a bell, eyeshine is brilliant. Took me a little while to realise that when using it at night you need the built in IR turned on to see the targets. A bit different to my other night sight for you dont need the IR on to view through it.
    All that said, I am very impressed with the photon, for use day or night. :up:

    Thanks Lee.
     
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    There is barely any ambient IR available at the moment with moonlight being almost non existent. Half moon - reasonably high in the sky will give you enough light to at least stalk the dark profile of your rabbit for 100 yards or more without using any artificial light if you keep the objective lens clear. Use a lens cap with a hole in it to improve depth of view and image quality as you get closer or turn on the IR.
     

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