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your survival air rifle ideas

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by airgunguy, Jan 25, 2014.

  1. airgunguy

    airgunguy Junior Member

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    So im starting a project.
    As a scout leader i love survival activities. I want to make myself an air rifle especially adapted for survival situations. I already know i dont want to spend much on this. I plan on using an SMK B2 as the body of the gun (i know its not too powerful, but in a survival situation it would take out a pigeon if need be, i dont want comments about more expensive guns). I am going to cut down the barrel and stock as short as legal (for portability)... But thats all ive thought of......

    If this were your project what would you do? What would you adapt this gun with? And what features do you feel are crucial?
    Thanks
     
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    Something self sufficient but as accurate as possible, multiple stroke pneumatic springs to mind,something like the Webley Rebel.
     
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    If its a B2 then perhaps a few 4inch nails through the stock then you could use it as a club and get some proper dinner with it:D
     
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    Lol :) and pick your teeth once you have finished!

    Gaz
     
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    Pidlar Big Poster

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    As fire is a must for those wishing to survive, I'm sure the stock will give you a good start.
    Or you could swap it for a fishing rod if you come across indigenous folk!
     
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    o050cal0o Busy Member

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    Lol I don't think this thread is going where he intended it.

    Surely in s survival situation you would want the best most reliable equiptment available as your life depends on it. So a decent base gun with good upgradable/customizable parts should be your base and also stop the ribbing comments from this lot.
     
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    pump up rifle with hollow stock to keep survival kit in...ammo,wind up torch,lighter, superglue, knife, plastic zip lock bag.
     
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    This sounds a good idea but we already know it's a B2 so no pump up. Some duck tape around the end of the stock and a well folded polythene sheet to go towards shelter building perhaps?
     
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    Inside the hollowed out stock of course...
     
  10. o050cal0o

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    I do lots of mountaineering and for survival I have a small tupperware box thats always in my rucksack.

    99% of it is very cheap stuff that you can buy anywhere but incoraparting it into an air rifle is going to be tricky.

    I have
    a few meters of fishing line and a few hooks
    20m of 550 para cord
    2 emergency foil blankets
    flint and steel
    water purification tabs
    button compass
    tampon (for fire lighting) :eek:
    condom (for instant water bottle) or you may get lucky, dual purpose survival!
    section of surgical tubing (for drinking water out of awkward places)
    whistle
    snare wires
    some insulation tape.
    all this is in a small box about 5"x3" this can enable you to make the essential things you need to survive water, shelter, food. It would be much eaiser just to have a small kit like this and a standard gun to use as you would normaly use a gun as a gun is only a tool like and of the other items its not really dual purpose and you could easly survive without it. It would be intresting to see someone come up with a swiss army style gun but I think the reason there isnt one is because the need for it isnt there. I hope i have give you a few ideas to work on and wish you good luck with it.
     
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    Cut the stock down and fit a inlet hinge to fold it flat back.b2 jump a bit so looking the length you may not want too.would 177 be favoured due to fps over .22.
    Stock hollowed for kit sounds practical.
    Loose a little barrel I'm sure someone here knows a optimum length as I'm sure I read a post once 're this.
    Slip on mod weight and a tough scope.
    Just thread lock your bolts n screws on the b model they love to come out.
    Enjoy your project.
     
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    Lose the scope open sights are a must if its survival. Break the scope and the gun is totally useless.
     
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    I did think about a hollowed out stock and then though b**ger that I will just put the stuff in my pocket:D
     
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    Pure survival kit...ditch the gun . catapult with steel bb as shot. Plus rest of kit...reckon would fit in one or two kidney pouches or small panic bag.
     
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    Simple , hollowed out stock , fill with whiskey , drink whiskey , no longer care if you survive. Job done :D
     
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    Sorry my bad I stand corrected!! sort of.
     
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    Well I know you don't want to look at a more expensive gun, but look for a second hand smk xs19 or similar, the first thing needed with a survival gun is the ability to actually hit the target, the standard b2 is poorly adapter to hunting barn doors never mind live food, second the standard b2 puts out maybes 9ftlb, by chopping the barrel it will be down to pistol power and near useless what so ever.
    If you chop the barrel payout will need to recrown it aswell or it will be more accurate to just throw the pellets.
    Next I would recommend heat shrinking the main body and barrel of the gun with a very small amount of viscous oil underneath to stop rust, not many people carry ballistol in survival situations and a rust gun soon becomes useless.
    A silencer is always a good idea as it could be difference between starving to death or not.
    It may be obvious, but a sling aswell, if your climbing a hill or trees etc you need to have both your hands free.
    Good luck, and with you being with the scouts your will be a figure to look upto by the scouts so remember to stick within the laws, and use the gun safely and legally. :up:
     
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    The way I see it, if you want a survival air rifle, any items a hollowed out stock may contain should pertain only to the rifle, simply so that if you lose the rifle you dont lose a whole bunch of other important stuff. That should be kept on your person.
    If I was to make one, and ive thought a lot about it, would be based on something like a webley victor or a mk1 bsa lightening.. something compact and spring powered. I wouldnt be cutting it down because what difference would that make? Maybe a 3 point sling or some way of making it secure and easy to carry. Definately some kind of rust proofing like ceracoat or duracoat. In a hollowed out stock I would have the most basic tols for maintenance, again, no scrimping on functionality. Pellets, and that's about it.
    Cutting down a stock and barrel only serves to conceal a rifle. If the **** hit the fan I would be wary of getting out and about looking for small game anyway... if it was a peacefull kind of situation I dont think anyone would mind if you were putting game on the table, therefore being visible with a rifle wouldn't be so frowned upon.
    as for sights, a good 4x32 + open sights will do the job.
    Its easy to get carried away with 'rambo' style ideas, but if yoy think about it practically it makes more sense to have several 'bits of kit' for different purposes, rather than one that does it all.
     
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