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Would You Own A Hw 99 Again

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by foxtrott, Nov 16, 2019.

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Would you own a Hw 99 again

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  1. foxtrott

    foxtrott Very Active

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    It's a fault not a niggle a rifle and a washing machine are both products both should work correctly that's the link
     
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    Correct pal wear and tear are different to a fault
     
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    I'll explain it to you, it's a brand new item and therefore it shouldn't have any inherent faults. It doesn't matter whether the item cost £200 or £2000 it's new and it shouldn't have a fault it's as simple as that,certainly not one that is detrimental to the long term functioning of the item if it is not remedied. There that shouldn't be too difficult to understand.
    Perhaps you could also explain why you think a rifle that sells for about £200 is automatically worth £300 assuming you're referring to a new HW99s.
     
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    Iam with you on this one 100% let's make it basic for them should any new product need a repair to work correctly.......
    No it shouldn't. Simple
     
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    It's now worth £300 because it now has £100 of moly grease in it :D
     
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    Yes Jim I don't think we should confuse galling ie. when the gun is cocked it actually removes/scrapes metal off with just some friction marks,contact points which will cease after some use and if the owner wants can just clean/tidy them up afterwards.
     
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    But the point is despite the galling some people still knowingly choose to buy a rifle with a potential inherent flaw. I did. And I think those people find the cost of the rifle, plus the effort to fix it worth it in respect to what they end up with. I think it’s part of the fun and games, you’re knowingly buying into with a 99. I don’t think those same people would then tolerate a flaw in another rifle or a car or washing machine and yes, would probably send it back. I just think the relationship a lot of shooters have to the 99 is a bit unique. And that’s cool. I do think it would obviously be better if the issue didn’t exist in the first place and maybe one day it won’t. But in this instance for some I think it’s ok... and for everyone else, the gun don’t get brought or goes back. Mine is a joy to shoulder and is giving me pellet on pellet groups with the open sights at 25yrds - not pushed out further yet... I wouldn’t swap it for anything...
     
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    Or is that his labour rate,the £100 or so, for fixing the problem.;)
     
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    :claping::laff:
     
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    I wonder if i posted similar problems with my smk xs19 or umarex perfecta how many people would tell me to bin them,take them back,save for something better cos they crap,should have got a hw or aa etc etc instead of telling me theres lots of threads on how to sort it and it will be a awsome gun once i fixed it......
    For the record both bought new from welshwilly and tuned by him 6odd years ago and never had a single issue after many thousands of shots accounting for countless vermin with no galling,grinding,accuracy problems or twang.
     
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    This is a bit like the leaky Daystate debates.
     
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    I agree my lad has a smk 15 worked how it should no issue what so ever
     
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    But very easily sorted even easier than the 99 which is very easily sortedApart from yours.:D:D. Ide love to have had a go at it.
     
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    You could have had it it would have made a awesome door stop
     
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    :laff::laff::claping:There goes a bitter Man.
     
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    With all due respect,you couldn't sort your own out:facepalm:
     
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    We are talking about Galling and I suppose I asked for that.;)
     
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    Not so. The delrin spring keeps the dog rough foot against the inside of the cocking slot.Its not just scraping something that it can remove contact is maintained by the spring.
     
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    If you had posted similar problems with your XS19 or Umarex your assumptions on the response you would have received would almost certainly have been correct i.e less than favourable.
    I can just imagine the plethora of unfavourable,unflattering and possibly downright rude remarks had this been happening to a Gamo springer. No doubt the the words crap,s**t or sh*te would have been all to prevalent.
    Just for the record i once did own a Gamo Springer,a Shadow RSV, about 6 years ago and whatever it's fault(s) were,mainly the trigger, galling wasn't one of them it was smooth to cock with not a hint of scraping or any other unpleasant noises.
     
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    I was referring to friction marks contact points on the outside/under side of the cylinder. Years ago back in the late 70s early 80s i owned a couple of HW35s which has the same style cocking link/lever and on those guns where the roller in the cocking lever ran on the underside of the cylinder it naturally wore the bluing off and at the start of the cocking slot by the circular hole there was a couple of friction marks or slight rubbing but when i stripped the guns down for a fettle and re-lube i just tidied then up with a small fine file and they never re-appeared. Obviously while the guns were stripped i checked for any burs or rough edges in/along the cocking slot.
     
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