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Question Would you join a air rifle lobby group?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by FXpoacher, Jul 23, 2008.

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Would you join a lobby if it was solely for airgunners?

Poll closed Aug 6, 2008.
  1. If it gave us good PR and stood up for our rights

    16 vote(s)
    88.9%
  2. Not intrested

    2 vote(s)
    11.1%
  1. FXpoacher

    FXpoacher Engaging Member

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    One that would actually stand up for your rights as an Airgunner + gave good PR?
    Both i would of said were needed more now than ever.
     
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  2. Leeman

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    Put me down for YES
     
  3. a1gunner

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    YES:D
    YES:D
    YES:D
    maybe, some time....after a nap:bored::D
     
  4. jamjon

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    yes and i would be happy to volunteer my services to the organisation and help in anyway i can
     
  5. chief tommy

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    sign me up for that
     
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    Yes that would be great

    That would be awesome and i have already voted:up::):D:cool:
     
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    och aye, i'd sign up:D
     
  8. Darren Petts

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    I think we need less fractionalising in the sport not more. Divide and conquer is the modus operandi of the anti gun lobby. Split one section off and hope the rest breathe a sigh of relief that the latest attacks don't concern their branch of shooting. We all need to stick together regardless of gun not separate off. This is most important for us airgunners, as being unlicensed we are the most obvious target of legislation and attack.
     
  9. jamjon

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    thats the exact reason why we need our own lobby there is very little the antis can do to the other areas of shooting they allready have the legistlation and a full ban is unlikely that is why airguns are such an easy target for the antis if we are all lumped together the shotgunners and fullbore users will quickly disown us should anything negative happen. look at what the cpsa have done for clay pigeon shooting they have given it a voice and got the public to take it seiously and have got it introduced into schools and thats what we need to for airguns there is now a sports gcse in clay pigeon shooting why can't airgbuns be next
     
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    what no one informed me of this GCSE!!!:eek:

    why couldnt i take it:mad::D
     
  11. jamjon

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    it starts in september it's been in all the shooting press and on the news but it's in english schools not sure if that includes wales though a1 my local school is doing it i've been asked to help out as i allready teach guitar there
     
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    That's the point. Most airguns are unlicenced and that is exactly why WE need to stick together.
    I've not heard once in any bad airrifle coverage, Where the BASC stand up and say this was an isolated incident and does not reflect the actions of most air rifle user's.
    Mayby if it was a shotty or rimfire they would do it.
    But i would like to think with 500, 000+ members shooting air guns could force them to stand up for our rights as well.
    Sad as it is, those lot think of air guns as toys, untill someone gets hurt.
    There was a guy at bisley that they laughed at!
    That just shows there attitude to us.
    WE have to form our own "club", to get taken seriously.
     
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    Any new "club" would be destined to failure before it got off the ground and the thought of 500,000+ members is just pie in the sky thinking. If the "club" had free membership it would have no credibility and if it needed a fee very few would join unless it offered benefits other than just good PR. It's my guess that 90% of this mythical 500,000 air guns haven't seen the light of day for years and probably won't ever see it again. So that brings it down to 50,000 active guns. Of those probably 20% are strong airgunners, hunters or competition shooters, the remainder plink with their Dad/Mum in the garden. Competition shooters will aready be members of clubs and probably BASC and the hunters would join in dribs and drabs. I'd guess at 1000 members tops. A 1000 extra members joining an already established association would be a far stronger force.
     
  14. jamjon

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    basc is very good but it's spread to thin it's not a shooting organisation it's a fieldsports and conservation organisation and the airgun side of it is very limited i think if an organisation was set up that offered the right services then it would get the numbers needed it just takes time
     
  15. a1gunner

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    welsh schools arent great:(
    the only lesson you get here that wou wont get anywhere else in the UK is welsh language and lit.:D

    but im in a rural area so i can go with my airgun and learn for myself:)
    i did it anyway for food tech, did rabbit as my project so i got airgunning into the GCSE system my own way :D
     
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    There's lots they can and have done. We lost self loading full bore and pistols to knee jerk reactions fuelled by them.
     
  17. jamjon

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    like i said there is nothing else they can do other than a full ban on firearms they have allready taken away everthing they can and thats the reason that the other areas of the sport will disown airguners should the worst happen there is nothing we can sacrifice to keep our fullbores all we have are bolt action, single shot or double barrel hunters rimmfires could get away with a ban on just semi autos but it's very unlikely. it would juse be a total ban so it would be airgunners that get sacrificed instead i know that every fac holder at my club would support legistlation on airguns if it helped him or her keep there smallbore and fullbore rifles
     
  18. a1gunner

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    i see why an FAC guy wont miss an airgun but with out them how can you hunt ferals and rats
     
  19. jamjon

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    most fac holders don't use airguns a1 thats why they don't care most fac in this country are for fox rifles closely followed by deer rifles and things are actually improving for fullbore users there has been an ammendment to the law that allows all deer rifle owners to have there tickets changed to an open ticket to allow the shooting of ground game and pests meaning foxes and boar out of my rifle club only one other person besides myself shoots airguns and we have a membership of over 600 and cover everything from rimmfire 25 metre through to service rifle
     
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    Whilst I agree that that is the case, it's precisely that attitude we need to erase and challenge. That is the attitude the antis love to see us adopt as it allows them to divide off one section and conquer it. By dividing off the airgunners we are MORE likely to be the target of further problems. It is frankly a doddle to challenge such an attitude as it's VERY short sighted as once airgunners are wiped out then smallbore and fullbore shooters are next. We provide a buffer for them that they should be glad to keep.
     

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