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Would You Go Ratting With A .22 Pistol

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by TheNewbieShooter, Dec 6, 2018.

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  1. Hopalong

    Hopalong Engaging Member

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    Going back many, many years, early to mid 70's, I'm sure I was once told a minimum power of 9ft/lbs of power was required at the muzzle of any air weapon for hunting. I stand to be corrected.
     
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    I have used a .22 air pistol for point blank humane dispatch but I would not use a pistol for hunting as the power and accuracy is insufficient. Rats maybe vermin but any life deserves a quick and humane dispatch in my humble opinion.

    Atb KALP
     
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    As you say .22 pistol and don’t clarify what type, then yes I would’ve gone ratting with my Grand Power K22. However unlike in my youth when I was a a 1/2 decent shot, now I am sh*te with a handgun so sold it to another club member.
    Now being nagged to get another and do 3 gun comps with them.....:rolleyes:
     
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    It’s a definite no from me, accuracy firstly and then power,9ft lbs sounds right to me, I would go over kill rather than under,it would just not be humane .mike
     
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    Same here.
     
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    Ummmm, if I’m honest then no I probably wouldn’t based on the fact that rats are as hard as nails at the best of times....

    Unless you can “110% guarantee” a clean head shot every time which to be honest would be pretty hard going where rats are concerned then you’ll want all the power/accuracy you can get...
     
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    The conventional wisdom suggests that an impact energy of 4 ftlbf is sufficient for small creatures so a full power pistol will have enough energy to do the job at short ranges. A good air pistol will have the accuracy required to hit the target. Very few shooters will have the necessary skills to shoot a pistol accurately enough to hit their target every time.
    Of course shooting rats is often done in darkness a situation in which open sights are almost useless as are red dot sights and small pistol scopes.
    As a general rule it's fair to say that air pistols are not suited to the job of shooting rats but it is a generalisation and there will be exceptions and shooting trapped small animals is one. Of course using a rifle is going to be more efficient and more conducive to accuracy.
     
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    One point that may be of use to someone is that .177 pistols down to 3.1 ftlbs with hard pellets have been tested and approved for dispatch of trapped small animals ( mink and below. )

    There has never been any testing of .22 they could well be just as humane or even better than .177 but we don’t know that.
    And if you choose to use a .22 air pistol for your dispatch work you won’t have any official research to back up your actions should they ever be questioned.
    If buying, I would get .177 just because that’s what has been tested and approved.
     
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    I quite agree with you but just to clarify do you mean traps and poison as a first choice , then air rifle or terriers as a second ? I guess I am just hoping you would not use poison then terriers ;).I did watch a video of a guy ratting with his terriers once and one of the terriers swallowed one :facepalm: atb Gary.
     
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    Pistol for dispatch of trapped animals - but to my mind, that's not hunting. Not even sure if using a pistol in open hunting scenarios is even legal.
     
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    Was it a UK video as Fieldsports.tv have content from many countries?

    For the record, no I wouldn't as I'm not accurate enough with a pistol.
     
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    Absolutely not. A pistol, unless fired at almost point-blank range to a caged animal cannot guarantee a clean kill.

    Use the search function - this topic has been done to death and people have been banned for condoning pest control with pistols.

    NEVER use a pistol for hunting.

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