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Question Would you be prepared to be licensed??

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Nicksi, Jun 17, 2008.

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Would you be prepared to be licensed if it meant you could keep hunting / shooting

  1. Definately, if it saves my sport

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  2. Nope, it's a free country and I want it to stay that way

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  3. Couldn't give a monkeys

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  1. jamjon

    jamjon Posting Addict

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    I'm not talking about an fac but some of the procedures used in fac applicatons would be good these days if you want a rifle for deer stalking most fao will isist you pass a dsc level one course before issuing one and if you want a gun for pest control they will check the land and only allow you certain calibre guns.
    A general test for ownership of the gun would be a good idea then if you wanted to shoot ft or hft you would have to be a memeber of the club and the clubs would have to pass on statistics about how often you shoot to the police just like they do with firearms and if you want a gun for hunting and pest control the fao will need to examin the land before you can have one
     
  2. a1gunner

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    do you reckon a land check would be neccesary for a 12ftlbs gun:confused:
     
  3. jamjon

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    yes because it's not just about checking the land is suitable it's about checking you actually have somewhere to hunt and the quarry species you claim to want the gun for are actually there.

    So rather than having a full blown fac for airguns we just have some of the background checks and we have to meet some of the requirements of an fac before we can purchase the guns

    That way anyone wanting an airgun will need to be an active member of a club or have suitable land to shoot on but won't need all the security and referances that an fac requires and won't need to pay for a variation every time they buy an gun or renew the certificate every 5 years
     
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    it woud make getting a shoot more fun:rolleyes:
     
  5. jamjon

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    It can make getting a shoot easier having an fac has made getting shoots so easy for me the landowner has a choice between a sub 12ftlb airgunner with no shotguns or firearms and me with an fac he knows i've been checked out by the police and he knows i'm reliable because i'd lose my fac and sgc if i wasn't
     
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    some farmers know that and other dont but i see how the paper can help:up:
     
  7. jamjon

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    New legistlation may not be a bad thing it may hurt the back garden plinkers but the serious shooters could benefit
     
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    i started out as a back garden plinker.
    not many clubs near me:(
     
  9. clabby

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    there no such thing as a free contry now and i dont think it will be long till they put them on licence because of the amount of youths shooting people and cats and stuff for fun and because the goverment will make money off it
     
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    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    Back garden plinkers probably make up the biggest part of the airgunning community, what would the affect be on the airgun trade if they lost out.
     
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    megga bux, but the same was said, when bullet pistol where going to be banned:(
     
  12. jamjon

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    Back garden plinkers were the mainstay before the vcr act came into force but the ban on mail order and the fact that all shops selling airguns had to be rds was the nail in the coffin for it if it died off it wouldn't affect the sales it would just change them as people would buy more serious equipment if they were forced to join clubs so instead of selling loads of smks etc they would sell more daystaes, air arms etc but in lower quantities the finacial side of things for the shops wouldn't change
     
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    Lower quantities means much higher prices, pricing many airgunners out.
    I have no intention of joining a club, why would i want to travel miles (more cost) just to shoot my guns.
    If you think licensing will work, take a look at the Brocock bacs. :D
     
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    The licensed pistol was banned, but did it bring down gun crime.
    No it went up by 40% :D
     
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    Many airgunners can't afford to spend a grand on top-end PCPs and all the charging equipment that comes along with it!!
     
  16. stu s410

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    I agree, I only got an s410 because Id just got a bonus. By the time I'd got the gun, scope and charging equipment it came to over a grand! Now Im thinking of getting an underlever, probably an tx200 hc me thinks!
     
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    A complete ban on hand guns doesn't keep the brain dead from shooting people! A licence will only ensure that the law abiding majority have more hassle.
     
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    Those are the attitudes that will kill the sport off if i have to join a club and spend a bit more on equipment to continue to enjoy the sport then i will.
    If the sport doesn't change then it will suffer it's a fact the criminal acts commited with air weopons are done with cheap plinking guns nobody goes out and buys a high end springer or a pcp unless there serious about the sport.
    The vcr act was the goverments attempt at killing of plinking and back garden shooting and it hasn't worked the way they planned guns are still available mail order the numbers using airguns hasn't dropped so more legistlation is coming.
    That leaves us with two choices we fall in line with all the other shooting sports and turn it into a regulated organised sport or we give up and say goodbye to our guns.
     
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    And that solves the problem of criminals and idiots shooting illegally, does it?
     
  20. jamjon

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    yes it will as far as airguns are concerned do you really believe that the people that supply illegal weopons to criminals will bother with airguns of course they won't it's time to be realistic the change is coming and we can prepare for it or we can sit around and complain about it and do nothing
     

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