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Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by werdna, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. werdna

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    Evening all i have a webley and scott fx2000 in mint condition its shot about 100 rounds,havnt used it for a while and had an offer to sell which i cant refuse,took it out and cleaned it went to charge and it wont charge,was told it was the seal on the pump,got a new one replaced that still cant get air into gun you pump until it wont go any more but none goes into gun?please help guys
    thanks in advance
     
  2. stevemandm

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    is the rifles air cylinder empty, and when you're pumping, does this register pressure on the pumps gauge ?
    if yes, it may need a quick blast from a bottle before you can use a pump
     
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    Gun use empty and needs cocking...or seal on cyclinder gone and needs replacing or just a quick blast as Steve said..
     
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    This
     
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    Not quite sure what you mean - what pressure is showing on the pump gauge?
     
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    Cock it to 'reset' the seals and valve to allow enough air to force the seals and valve unit shut.
     
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    hi


    Not tech minded gents,the bar prassure is on 100,dont have a bottle to blast it??
     
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    Cock the gun then fill it,slowly up to whatever you usually fill to,hold the bolt back and then pull the trigger to un-cock the gun once you've done.no need to fire it.
     
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    If the gun has gone low on air, u will need to. Cock it, then give a quick blast of air using a bottle...u won't fill it with a pump if it's gone too low
     
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    Ive tried everything the air is staying in the pump??wont transfer to gun at wits end?
     
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    Its on 100bar thats not low is it??thanks for reply
     
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    While the advise regarding cocking is sound with many PCPs, the FX200 cocks on closing; so you only really need to lift the bolt and allow it to return rearward under spring tension to take the load off the exhaust valve.

    Can you hear air escaping anywhere? Is the pump registering any pressure? How about the gauge on the rifle?

    Leaks at the fill valve are common on the FX rifles.. as are leaks around the exhaust valve at the rear, to a certain extent.

    If the fill valve is leaking the gun would have been empty when you started to charge it and will have held any pressure you put into it until you opened the bleed valve on the pump; at which point the air in the rifle will have discharged past the knackered inlet valve seal and out of the pump.

    If the leak is elsewhere on the rifle you'll either achieve some pressure in the gun that will seep away over a few minutes, or it will escape straight away and no pressure will be registered.

    It would help diagnosis is you can tell us exactly what happens on the pressure gauge(s) once you've got the pump connected and have been pumping for a while ;)
     
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    No.100 bar is the point in which my guns are usually filled up at.
     
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    with a bit of luck, a member on your doorstep will come round to sort it out mate
     
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    It does sound like the pump is not achieving a high enough pressure to get any air into the gun. Is it the gauge on the pump that says 100bar? Maybe try cleaning or changing the seals on your filling adapter. From what you have said, it sounds like there is enough air in the gun to fire it, i.e., it is not empty?
     
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    100 bar on gun gauge is likely to be lower in real life..as a lot of rifle gauges aint the best..
     
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    Once you connect pump the pressure on gun stays at 100,the pressure on the pump wont rise over 20/30 mark no air escaping from anywhere until you pull pump of then theres a loud air bang,you can pump until it wont go down and is soliid so its not entering gun?
     
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    good point lee , our s400 would prob be at 80 bar if the gauge read 100 bar :up:
     
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    when you 'pump' the pump (with the adaptor not in the rifle's fill port, of course), does air come out of the adaptor on the end of the whip ?
     
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    yes 100% you can pump say 10 goes whilst in goes im knackered lol,x that by how many times ive tried
     

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