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Wildman Slugs

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by gazzago, Mar 28, 2021.

  1. gazzago

    gazzago Busy Member

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    I've always thought slugs to be for the high power US market/FAC. However recently there have been efforts to bring these to the rest of us.

    I'm awaiting the order of slugs from gb2017 as per this thread; https://www.airgunforum.co.uk/community/index.php?threads/precision-ballistics-slugs.337571/

    in the meantime I ordered some .177 slugs from Wildman.com

    The Wildman slugs arrived yesterday and as it was dry I set up to test them in my garden. Max range here is about 35m.

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    The Wildman slugs I chose were 177 DB - domed or dished base? 11.8gr. They have a hollow point and can be ordered in several different weights.

    They were very clean, shiny and look very high quality. But then they should be at the prices charged for slugs! Wildman are very competitive in the world of slugs at £11 for 100. Still not plinking material though.

    I'm of the understanding that the benefit of slugs is increased energy retention and reduced wind drift due to increased BC. Also increased energy delivery if the youtube videos are anything to go by the hollow points really seem to open up!

    But all of that doesn't matter if they aren't accurate so here are my results.

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    Rifle used was my Steyr Pro X .177 shot from a bipod, x10 mag on scope (max) which for target work would be better being maybe x20. The conditions were dry but gusty winds from left to right on my target for about 10m of my range. The other 20m was protected from the wind by the house.

    I didn't clean the barrel when moving from my usual QYS pellets and only shot a few slugs before the target work as I didn't want to waste them!

    Chrono showed the slugs at 667,666,666,663,669 ft/s giving 11.6-11.7 ftlbs that's almost the same as my QYS, just slower of course.

    Each target is 31m, 5 shots.

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    The Wildman slugs were about 1cm low and right.

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    So there we have it. Not scientific just sharing an experience. The Wildman slugs work in 177, group very well at 31m (34 yards).

    The downside is of course price but for hunting or competition work these are not a bad price really. Plinking with them is too pricey for me though. I found them very loose in the Pro X magazine.
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    These magazines have no o ring or other method of stopping the pellet/slug falling out other than friction. The Wildman slugs just didn't have enough friction to top them falling out so the magazine had to be kept level whilst loading. Not ideal but as the Steyr shooting from/through the magazine I can't think of any easy mod to stop this.

    I'm looking forward to receiving my next delivery of slugs to try. It would also be interesting to see how they perform compared to the diablo pellet at longer ranges. But with lockdown I don't have access to a range... soon though, fingers crossed.
     
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    Good stuff thanks for sharing. Might be worth trying the ProHunter ones too. I think the 10g precision ballistics ones are going to be a game changer though offering the same flight path as regular pellets and improved stopping power.
     
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    Very interesting, I've never heard of wildman until now, think its a interesting time with new ammo coming on the market and all from the UK too..

    Lovely rifle and good results :thumb:
     
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    very interesting perhaps they may get cheaper when there is more competition about
     
  5. Fusty Fieldcrafter

    Fusty Fieldcrafter Posting Addict

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    Following these slug treads with interest. I'd be curious to see how the wildmans compare with the QYS on a windy day?
    Good write up and thanks for posting!
     
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    Prohunter ones are almost twice the price so I may hold off on those for the moment. Looking forward to trying the Precision Ballistics slugs due to the slightly lower weight. @robs5230 gives them a really good initial write up too.

    It's great to see ammo advancing. Seems the UK independent makers are at the forefront on this one.
     
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    It was fairly windy but I tried to shoot in between the gusts, also the house shielded a lot of the pellets path to the target. A day on the range on a windy day would be ideal. I'm pretty rubbish at holding for wind :facepalm: so the slugs might be what I need on a windy day. :)
     
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    I agree it is great to see the advancement in slug design though the images above to me dont look massively different if much to me . The shoot nc targets always expand a group and make i hard to tell precisely where impact was like you can with card . I agree it is very good but for the price i would still choose my favourite pellet though all barrels are different as we know
    . The PB ones do seem to be the ones that have that edge and I'm keen to see how they do . Just my opinion .
    Very good write up @gazzago :thumb: and all experience with the new slugs is good .
     
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    When testing and comparing don't hold for wind, zero for centre at max 10 yards then shoot at distance. They hit where they hit with wind drift.
    This will give you a truer representation of what they do.
    When I'm testing pellets I find some print on target in different places, could all be high and left next type low and left. But I'm just looking at grouping. If I'm testing for wind drift all get zeroed to centre. Then I shoot them, not waiting for gaps in wind, I just shoot and see how you usually get two groups, one with the lull and other with the gusts.
    Other may do differently.
    Im looking forward to testing slugs. Especially at longer range.
     
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    I didn't hold for wind here I just shot them, tried to shoot in between gusts so I could see how they grouped. I can see how the wind effects them another time now I know they're accurate at modest ranges. I did adjust the scope zero for the second group with the slugs hence one group is low to right and the next is centre.

    30m gave a fair representation I think. But really need to push them past 30m 40m,50m,60m. That's when the better BC should begin to show itself.

    This was just a test to see if they worked in my rifle. I'd say they do and are worth further tests. Why not try some and let us know how you get on with them in your rifle :thumb:.
     
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    Probably hold a couple of ftlb more at 45yds than an JSB 8.4 shot at 12 and less over a 10gn ish i reckon.
    That cavity looks deep...will they expand if shot at a large spud at 25yds. ?
     
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    Dunno :shrug: Get some and have a go :hunting: I’ll try it next time I have a chance. So long as it doesn’t upset any vegans shooting at potatoes.
     
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    I've ordered the 10.5 grain slugs off forum member. I'll post up my findings at 25m and 36m garden ranges then when my local range opens out to 85m.
    This is if they work in the FX STX liner, not been tested as yet.
    I may try wildman slugs as they are just down the road, if I can collect some when out and about.
     
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    Thanks for the heads up on their locale. Interesting they offer gunsmithing too.
     
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    Thank you for the heads up. Just ordered some 11.8gr. Can't wait for the clubs to open.
     
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    Yep I've just ordered some too at 11.8gr. It's the potential improvement in windy conditions performance that appeals to me.
     
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    In my case it's just curiosity. I want to see if they shoot well out of my smooth twist X superior barrel. At the moment I have nowhere to shoot outside.
    If they perform well at either Rochdale Airgun Club or Atherton Indoor Range I'll try to find a outdoor range not too far from me.
     
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    I hope this has inspired a few to try out slugs, from whatever source they prefer. They do seem like a step forward for the longer range stuff. I think diablo pellets will always have a place. Self stabilising, very accurate up to modest ranges and the poor BC is actually an advantage sometimes when you don't want your shoot to keep travelling a long distance with lots of energy, perhaps after a miss whilst hunting.

    Modern pcp's have brought a whole new world of accuracy that just wasn't possible when I was a lad with a springer. Except maybe to the few ultra gifted marksmen :D. It's good to see the ammo taking a step forward now too.
     
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  19. BallisticBill

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    Do you have a specified BC for these slugs? I'd be interested to know what you are able to measure when you shoot over longer range. The MV and drop at a couple of distances will provide the info for a calculation.
     
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    I don't. Can't see it on his website either. The BC etc for the .22 Wildman slugs are on Strelock Pro so maybe the .177 will follow.
     
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