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Question why do people buy pcps

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by jme99s, Jun 27, 2012.

  1. jme99s

    jme99s Donator

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    Ok I don't get why people buy pcp's I've just been using a friends bsa hornet and I can only think of two advantages
    1.A tiny bit more accurate a long range
    2.A lot less noise

    Buts here's the disadvantages
    1.More expensive to run
    2. When they go wrong they are a pain to fix
    3.Less fun
    I was compareing the hornet to my hw99. Both the same caliber borth great guns but i prefure my hw what do you all think of pcps I'm not having a go at pcps I just don't get it Thanks for any feedback
     
  2. Mad Marine

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    Everyone can shoot them and some prefer them for hunting less noise and usually multyshot
    I love both my Pcp and springer and hunt with both
    And pcp is easy to fix compared to some springers
     
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    Its interesting as i'm thinking of getting a pcp, but part of my thinks my spring rifle will do just fine.

    In a way i'd be glad to be talked out of it as its going to save me £700-£800.
     
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    You also forgot no recoil with a pcp. I have 4 springers but have not shot any of them since buying a pcp.
     
  5. Tmaxxjj

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    Prepare yourself for a barrage!

    I have both PCP's and springers, and enjoy shooting them equally just as much. But they're different. PCP's are a lot more accurate (in most cases), and can be extremely quiet (almost silent sometimes), they have no recoil, and as has been mentioned, most are multi shot. Which is very useful when hunting.

    Have you tried a PCP? Give it a go if you haven't ;)
     
  6. Akita177

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    I find im less consistant with head shots using a springer in all shooting posistions, also i love very light wieght PCPs for hunting better standing up shots and my arms dont tired which yet again improves my standing up shots.
    Multi shot PCPs are also great for hunting bag more bunnies before they run away, and when prone cocking a springer is a pain in the arse.

    I like the simplicity of a break barrel but why would i hunt with that when ive got a S410 superlight.
     
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    Oh, and most are really easy to work on by the way :)
     
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    Not all springers are easy to fix. Trust me, I know from experience...
    I want a PCP because it is virtually silent, so I can shoot it in my garden without annoying the neighbours and so I can shoot at virtually any time.
    I also want one because they are easier to use. Whilst I like the challenge of a springer, sometimes I just can't be bothered and want to hit what I'm aiming at every time.
    Springers generally don't do very well with bipods, and therefore people like me (kinda weedy) don't like to support the whole weight of a springer (which are usually heavier than PCPs)
    They are just my reasons.
     
  9. ithica -john

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    TX200HC....love it

    but adding an AA S400 or Brocock Contour super 6 ..read on

    because you missed an important option for some ie weight

    medical problems with hands ... - TX is just too heavy for hunting

    and i need a bipod

    regards..john
     
  10. jme99s

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    Forgot to mention about recoil well lack off in the hornets case but I think that one of the reasons I like springers so much more of a challenge to shoot acuratly
     
  11. bradleymarky

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    Ive just bought my first pcp after having springers and i can say is that i`m amazed at the difference between the two, i dont think i`ll be going back to a springer for a while..
     
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    you mean why learn to shoot a springer when you can hide behind a pcp? ;)

    My take on it is: people are quick to assume certain pcp's are the eptiome of airguns (hw100 *cough cough*) because they have such little experience with them first hand and go by the words of those who've over £700 on something that they will obviously praise whole heartedly.

    Now, the shooters out there that have shot a variety of airguns over the years will tell you how accurate a springer can be. How well they have/do hunt with them. How much fun they are to shoot/learn to shoot well. These shooters will most likely also tell you a pcp is an entirely different creature, they are easier to shoot, more consistent and incredibley beginner friendly.



    So, imagine what a newbie thinks when he searches the many forums to find the vast majority of threads are about 'pcp' rifles, and quite often specific models (you guessed it:rolleyes:) are the 'best' out there, goes and buys one and finds he can shoot it rather well for a beginner, never bothers trying a springer and carries on the trend of bigging up the almightyness of that specific air rifle to all the other inexperienced wealthy shooters to be..

    a generation who dismiss springers as an option and continue the trend of 'pcp is the best' is one that is missing out big time on a major part of the sport.

    or something like that.. I'll get my coat :D
     
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    if you like more of a challenge to shoot acuratly you could always try hoping on 1 leg :D
     
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    had an s410 and loved using it. that is until i bought a tx200. i stopped using the s410 as the tx200 was much more fun/challange to shoot. in the end i ended up selling the s410 and keeping the tx200, i even went and got a hw77 aswell to play about with. yes the pcp was very easy to shoot but after some practice my groupings with the springers is nearly equal to the pcp
     
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    Well I supose everyone has there own wants/needs but really at the end of the day its personal choice mine's springers love em
     
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    I would get a pcp but I no I'd never use it lol pcp's are good but I find them boring
     
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    The truth of the matter is the 2 types sit alongside each other as first among equals and always will be.

    Both have advantages, both have disadvantages- Status Quo

    Springers have a sense of 'engagement' between shooter and gun, something that PCP's lack. The fact the shooter uses HIS/HER own energy to cock the rifle means that the shot that leaves the barrel comes from the shooters own energy, not from a dive bottle. The little nudge in the shoulder to tell you that something has actually happened when you pull the trigger. To some these points don't matter but to others they do.

    It is a myth that PCP's are universally quieter than springers. There are some damn noisy PCP's out there and some damn quiet Springers and visa versa. Springer sound noisier as your ear is close to the stock to the mechanical sound transmits through the wood straight to your ear. However, with a decent silenced springer, the noise to a bystander is very low indeed. Last week THS was shooting my Lazaglided 97K and I was stunned by how quiet it was when alongside him. Just a low 'kerdump' and the shot was gone.

    Then there are PCP's that have tank 'ping' when fired. This can be very noticeable.

    Oddly enough, I was pondering that the rise of PCP's has given rise to more prone shooting because you can fit and use a bipod on one so many shots are taken in the prone position. It's harder to do this with a springer due to lack of bipod, so as a shooter you adopt more 'classic' shooting stances to get a steady aim.

    As I said at the start, springers and PCP's are both first among equals. You choose what you like to shoot and just enjoy whichever suits you :cool:
     
  18. drobson67

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    Once you get over the initial cost of buying a pcp and charging gear you will have a better gun that will out perform a spring air rifle in terms of no recoil, multi shot, quietness and accuracy which is the main reason I bought a pcp after owning many springer's over the years. I don't get the logic of wanting a springer because they are more of a challenge to shoot or more fun?, whats fun for me is hitting a target pellet on pellet at ranges springer's can't compete at and I don't want the challenge of shooting at live prey where there is more chance of wounding compared to the accuracy of a pcp. Springer's have a life and soul of their own and I will always have a soft spot having grown up around them but with the advancements in technology we move on to better things. Do we still use flintlock rifles?.. NO because we have invented better alternatives. I do believe spring rifles have their place, in situations where you cant get easy access to refilling the air or perhaps in a survival situation where a spring powered air rifle would be an ideal choice for self reliance. Long live pcp's, ok rant over now lol...
     
  19. jme99s

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    Well said
     
  20. Donki Oaty

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    I pick my S410 over my HW97K because it's quieter, more accurate, multishot, no recoil thus more accurate and lighter.
     

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