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Why can't I do well on targets

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Gollum, May 24, 2015.

  1. Gollum

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    Don't know why but when I am shooting at targets my groups dissapoint me :( However at the same range same rifle scope I can hit chalk sticks, beer bottle tops and alll sorts of small things consistently?????
     
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    I get bored shooting targets after about 5 minutes and can't be bothered. ..are you really trying atb
     
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    I think I may be trying too hard.
     
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    Maybe your trying to hard to print a nice neat group on paper,

    but I agree, I can hit a 15mm spinner better than the same size target on paper?
     
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    Just keep at it then ...try different things positions until your on the money
     
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    My arms sore with cocking the springer lol
     
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    Get a PCP lol
     
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    If I could afford one I would, but I do really like springers
     
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    Look at the size of a bullseye on a target compared to a bottletop or chalkstick!
    Try using your imagination for targets, get a block of MDF, drill some holes in it and put in a line of matches. Stick trebor mints on a piece of card, the same with polos but try to shoot through the hole. Put jam on a piece of white card and try to shoot the flies!
     
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    Relaxing, correct posture, hold and breathing are all aspects you could work on to improve, Rome wasn't built in a day!

    I love springer shooting, it gives a good sense of achievement and satisfaction when it comes right.
     
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    Are you changeing postion after every shot are you what about your breathing
     
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    Follow these it should help.
    1.the position and hold must be firm enough to support the weapon
    2.The weapon must point naturally at the target without any undue physical effort
    3.sight alignment and the sight picture must be correct
    4. The shot must be released and followed though without undue disturbance to the position.
    These are the armed force's mark ship principles follow these and it should help with your grouping/shooting remember shooting is a skill it takes time and practice to get truly good at it
     
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    Imo it all comes down to practice, then more practice, as said above small targets, I love to practice with very small targets, such as match sticks or anything small, I also like to see how many I can shoot through the same hole, and them big fat blue bottle flies are great sport, all part of the fun.
     
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    I do ok on paper targets, until a put that little sticker on it that says" competition", then for some inexplicable reason my shots are all over the place:D
     
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    Having read the comments here and some shooting techniques videos I believe my main problems are,

    Variable hold
    No follow through

    Will endeavour to practice and find the solutions :) It's all good fun tho
     
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    I am the same. I can hit spinners, knock down and rest targets and the likes without too much issue. Sit me in front of a target and get me to do a group and my brain says "ah screw this I am gonna mess with you now so you do crap!". I can do it if I really , really, REALLY try. Suppose it's down to practice.
     
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    Same here I think with me its the pressure lol and something to do with all the lines on the target. Little spinners far easier
     
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    Shooting my Alecto Pistol with open sights has become my new challenge. The red dot sight that was on it was making it too easy.

    I'm often left scratching my head after apparently aiming perfectly at a chosen shotgun shell and missing, as if I'd made no effort to aim at all.

    I think follow through is my biggest let down with rifle or pistol. You need all of the elements described by brit solder to come together in order to get it right.
     
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    All follow though is is to make sure you don't move and don't release the trigger until your pellet round hits the target make sure you relase the trigger under control then rebuild your postion before you take the next shot and use the same point of aim make sure you don't snap the trigger to cause this can pull the rifle to the left
     
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    Aim small, miss small.

    I haven't the right mindset, discipline, or whatever else you want to call it for grouping on traditional concentric ring targets.

    I usually shoot a pellet into a blank sheet of A4 and the next five or so get shot at that first pellet hole.

    Either that or I stick a map pin into a blank sheet of A4 and shoot at that.

    Every five or six shots I move the map pin if I haven't blown it to bits which, more often than not, I have.

    Another thing to try is to make sure your zero range is a few yards either side of the range you are shooting at.

    Example:

    shoot a single hole into a sheet of A4 at 30 yards, assuming a 28 yard zero for .22 or a 36 yard for .177 (depending on power and pellet).

    That gives you a constant aim point since you will be shooting a shade low in .22 and a shade high in .177

    If you aim for a small target at your zero range and hit it, you just wiped out your aim point...

    I sometimes use a Sharpie and just quickly doodle a dot onto a target. Here is 8 shots at 30 yards with my HW99s (rested):

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    7 Shots at 35 yards using Bisley Magnums from my FAC Rapid:

    [​IMG]

    5 shots at 30 yards with my .20 HW95:

    [​IMG]

    10 shots from my old .22 HW77s (rested):

    [​IMG]

    You can see the map pin hole at the bottom of the above group - I shot it off with the first pellet and used that first pellet hole as my aim point for the rest of the group.

    And to put this into perspective, this is when it all goes horribly wrong - the magazine cycling is out of whack on this particular PCP which results in the bolt shearing the pellet, which never hits the same place twice:

    [​IMG]

    :rolleyes:

    Try shouldering the gun without it cocked or loaded, bring it on aim, hold, breath, pull the trigger smoothly through its full travel and don't move the gun off aim until moment after the trigger has reached the end of its travel.

    Good triggers are easier to work with, but even poor ones can give good results if you adopt this 'pull through the shot' method.

    Practice on its own can easily plateau - good practice is more difficult to achieve without some external help. Often you can't see what it is you are doing wrong while others can.

    The better you get the smaller the gains.

    Keep at it - if it was easy we'd all be winning competitions left, right and centre :D

    Incidentally the above groups (apart from the last one ;) ) are examples of when it all goes right. Needless to say, it sometimes doesn't...

    Good luck !
     

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