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Advice which to choose?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by rascaltrousers, Mar 24, 2012.

  1. rascaltrousers

    rascaltrousers Busy Member

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    HI there, I'm MItch and I'm new to this site. I've recently taken up shooting again after a 15 year break, thanks to a frined who has secured us permission on a local farm. I'm currently using my Air arms TX200 mkI which I bought new when I used to shoot years ago. It is a lovely gun, powerful, accurate and beautifully made, BUT and it's a big but, It is also very heavy which means after a couple of hours I struggle to hold it still. Also being left handed, although the stokc is correct the chamber to load is on the right and the under lever is very heavy to cock.

    I'm looking for a second rifle for hunitng rabbits, rats etc. I need full power and good accuracy but with relatively light weight. A local shop has the following in stock and I was wondering if any site members had any experience of these rifles and what the thought of them:

    1. Kral Magnum £108
    2. Crosman Optimus £153 including 4x32 scope & mounts.
    3. Cometa (not usre what model) £120.

    The Kral seems very good value, the Crosman was a nice looking and elegant gun with a more quality feel and well balanced. The Cometa was very light, almost too light so I'm guessing it will be low power.

    I've been researching the net and I'v seen many rifles advertised as full power but with muzzle velocities in the same .177 calibre varying from 800 to 1250 fps. How can 2 full power rifles vary by 1/3 ?

    Any advice or information any site members can give would be much appreciated.
     
  2. Mart61

    Mart61 Pro Poster

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    I'm no expert and I've no knowledge of the guns of which you speak.

    I have owned a tx200 and currently shoot an HW97KT.

    I would reckon your tx may be far and away better than any of your suggested guns. Could you put a sling in the tx to help carrying it around?
     
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    if you want a quality, light weight springer i would go for a used hw95k
     
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    the tx will be head and shoulders above what you've mentioned
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    I doubt any you mentioned are on the limit I dont think anything at a ton will be close and all woll be noisy with terrible triggers. Go for a used hw for a little more money or as said fit a sling. I wouldnt try for quarry at unlnown distances with an unknown under powered gun its not sporting.
     
  6. rascaltrousers

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    I appreciate eveyrone's comments. I have looked at the HW95k online and it is'nt much lighter than the TX200 so I don't think it would be much advantage. I have M.E. and although it is mild I do get tired easily and then get muscle aches, so the weight of the rifle is quite important both from the fatigue factor and also in holding it steady. A friend suggested an extendable aluminium fishing rode rest with a cup at the top to support the rifle for standing shooitn and I've bought one of these to try which might help. but it's mostly lugging the gun around that is the issue. Also budget is limited. I'm in agreement that to use an underpowered gun for hunting would not be wise but If the guns I'm looking at are full power then there shouldn't be a problem should there? Surely one full power rifle with a muzzle velocity of 1000fps is much the same as another with the same output.
     
  7. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Borrox! The HW95 is a lot lighter than a TX, just try aiming one of each! You will not get a muzzle velocity of 1000 fps, not without a license, you have to remember we have a 12 foot pound limit, unless you have a firearm certificate. The figure of 1000 fps is the maximum the gun can produce! Also sounds like a very Hatsan claim that... Not that there is anything wrong with a Hatsan!
     
  8. Barcelona68

    Barcelona68 Banned BANNED

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    The Hw95k is a lot lighter than a TX which is about the same weight as an Hw97.. I know, I have one and it's by far my lightest springer.
     
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    I used to hunt years ago with a guy who used a BSA supersport and I remember it being very light. I did have the TX200SR which was the same weight as a hatchback so it may have been offset by that fact. It was a great gun and he used to bag up on many a trip. Seen some used ones well within your budget. Also seen a lot of tall bipods that double as walking sticks at good money!
     
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    Hi the TX is a quality gun most quality springers have heavy actions inc Weihrauchs. I personally think you might be better switching to pre charge. If your disability is effecting you I would look at getting a lightweight pcp like Brocock Contour or BSA Ultra. Sell the TX use money towards a pcp. You won't have hassle either of trying to break the barrel or under lever cocking.
     
  12. rascaltrousers

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    Thanks to all for the advice. I had a look at the custom stock link. I'ms ure they are very good but my personal opinion is that they are hideous - probably hideously expensive too I'd guess. Idid look at the spuersport but new was too expensive so I might keep my eye open for a second hand one.
     
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    An alternative would be the Crosman Ratcatcher, the new one with the longer barrel should be putting out about 10 ftlbs I reckon.
     

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