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Which gun?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Cambs_Shotter, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. Cambs_Shotter

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    After now establishing im fine to own airguns.. Im looking at my first gun..

    I dont want to pay through the roof for a first gun into the hobby, because you never know, could always end up not liking the sport (doubt it).

    Got two in mind..

    The Ratsniper XL @ £120

    Or i was thinking, more PCP..

    The Webley Rebel???

    I have been reading into it, about Co2 Having varied power, dependant on weather etc..
    But when its colder weather, and the power is less than it could be.. How much are we talking about?
    Not enough for a clean kill to a vermin skull?
    Or the power loss marginal?

    Obviously i know PCP's are better, and i have shot a fair few PCP's in the past..
    BUt they are alot of money, and obviously needing the refill equipment.
    I can afford it, but really dont want to spend that much on my first gun to begin with..

    With the Webley rebel being a 8 pump PCP. it claims 10ft/lbs of power???
    How true do you think this actually is?
    Because i thought PCP was charged with Gas.. Not just compressed Air???

    Anyone know / owned or used any of the above guns i mentioned? That can give me a good, unbiast opinion, and lean me in the direction of which one would be best?

    Now before its mentioned.. Springers are not my cuppa tea... The whole breaking the barrel each shot, and the horrific twang noise the spring makes.. No thanks...

    I want either a Co2 or PCP thats powerful enough for clean kills to the head of rabbits etc
    Personally i like the look of the Ratsniper over the Webley.. and the pump charging would anoy the nuts out of me..
    So if the co2 is perfectly adequate for kills, then im all for it..

    Cheers
     
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    PCP. Pre Charged Pneumatic... It not gas it's the same air we breathe.

    The Webley Rebel is an MSP.. A Multi Stroke Pneumatic... You have to manually pump it up.

    Personally I'd go for a springer anyday over it and any c02 rifle... Not all are twangers and when you learn how to shoot one properly it becomes second nature.
     
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    If you can afford the additional, then look out for an Air Arms S400 pcp. You should be able to get a complete kit with charging gear (pump), for £300-£350 second hand. Twice your intended budget I appreciate, but you'll get every penny of that back if you decide it's not for you and want to sell it on.

    Dont be put off by the hand pump. They're really no great effort, despite what you might read.
     
  5. trumpetier

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    If you decide on a springer, the best by far for close to your budget would be a HW 99s. You can pick them up for around £150 secondhand.
     
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  6. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Whoa, avoid Pellpax, you will pay over the odds on something that you can pick up elsewhere! You pay for the convenience of a doorstep delivery, but if it goes wrong, you will be paying a fortune to send it back via the Royal Mail, assuming it actually gets back to them. Also they do have a reputation for closing down abruptly. Meaning good chance of no money and no gun!

    There are some good shops in your area, Fenland Rural Sports for example is less than 30 miles from you.

    The Webley Rebel is an old design, it is a copy of the Sharp Innova, with none of the redeeming features of that gun. Quality is varied, some being quite good, others being damned awful. They claim 10 ft lb, the one I bought would not make 7, despite it claiming to be a 10 ft lb model. Trigger is awful and you will sound like a Maracas infested Spaniard as you pump it up!

    Best to stick to a good spring powered rifle, someone has already suggested the superb HW99. A secondhand example will cost you around the £150 mark, new they can be had from £220. It should not be too difficult transporting your purchase back on your motorbike. Just make sure you buy a damned good riflebag! Many shooters use a motorbike to get around on.
     
  7. Cambs_Shotter

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    Thanks for your replies..

    I will have a look out for these guns you suggested.. Although id prefer to buy brand new personally..

    I might take a ride down to Whittlesey shop then and see what there is..

    cheers
     
  8. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    In that case look at the Hatsan 55 or 60 if you like wooden stocked (basically the same gun but the 55 is .177 and the 60 is .22), or the 85 which is the synthetic stocked version (if you like plastic fantastic).

    They do sell them there and they are a good priced reliable little shooter!

    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/176765-Hatsan-reviews
     

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