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Where to site a shotgun cabinet

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by ambriel, Aug 5, 2014.

  1. ambriel

    ambriel Engaging Member

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    We live in a rather old cottage (300+years).

    It's built of stone but the internal walls are all stud.

    This means I can't fix a shotgun cabinet directly onto a solid wall. What other options do I have?

    I currently keep my airguns in a metal cabinet screwed to the solid concrete wall of my office, which is locked and inside an agricultural barn which is also locked at night. Is it likely they'd approve my keeping the shotguns in the same place if I fix the cabinet to the concrete wall as well?
     
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    Not likely, it preferred that it is sited in an integral part of the house, like an integral secure garage if there were no other place.

    Could you fix it lying down onto the floor?
     
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    can you not think to fix bottom of cabinet to the floor with some bolts that expand, then some good wood bolt screws into the stud,
     
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    Could you drill into the stone and then anchor the bolts with adhesive, etc.? From the initial conversation with my FAO he didn't like the idea of using outbuildings, or for that matter the integral garage.
    It might be worth contacting your FAO for some advice on cabinet placement. Their attitude varies, but many of them are quite helpful with this sort of thing. With some discussion they may even help you with getting it secured in your barn, if you can steer him towards it being the most logical/sensible placement.
     
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    By this statement I mean the cabinet lying down, not a DIY challenge.....
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    no through the bottom. thats how mines done and a couple of stud wall bolts securing it the the wall for looks.
     
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    Long threaded rods chemically fixed into the outer wall and through the internal wall.
    But better idea is to ask your FEO. Some are more tolerant than others. Depends a lot on the area.
    He will probably be pleased you have asked his advice.
     
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    Both mine laid down and bolted to floor
    Atb
    Nath
     
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    Sorry not to come back to this for a while. Laying down and bolted through the floor in our porch might be the best option if the barn is a no-goer. We don't usually bother to lock our house doors at night though. There's an under-stairs cupboard where it could be fitted recumbent, too, screwed into the wooden floor. Be a bi of a pain but....
     
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    To be honest, reading that post your FEO must be nuts if he allows you a Shotgun with that approach to security. Highlands or not, people want to steal guns 24/7, not bothering to lock your door doesn't sound good at all.
     
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    It's a fair point Harry, but I think many (by no means all) people's home security (access into the property) is less hardy than most gun cabinets.
     
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    I doubt there is a FEO that would approve anyone who said they didn't 'bother' to lock the door at night. Maybe I'm reading it wrong but it comes across as too much of a hassle. Security of the gun is rightly part of the deal of being allowed to own one IMO.

    Anyhow I'm not the FEO so it doesn't really matter what I think at the end of day.
     
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    Best lock them doors at night, no that it's getting dark:cool:
     
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    Feo's always take door and window security very seriously regardless of type or location of your gun cabinet. Even the location of your house will play a role in their security assessment. I have had to fit extra locks on windows and fit a different door lock in the past. Many people have been asked to fit gates to the sides of houses ect ect.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Fair enough. My FEO didn't check any windows or doors with me.
    Look, I'm not challenging the sense of making your house secure, especially if you have firearms on the premises.
    Each situation (house, cabinet, etc.) is unique, with it's own peculiarities. Your front door could be wide open, but if the cabinet is behind 9 other quadruple mil-spec locked doors, the FEO might find themselves satisfied.
     
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    Obviously with a shotgun on the premises security habits would need to change. Crime here really is non-existent, though. So little, in fact, that they're thinking of moving our local Policeman which would put the nearest one at least an hour's drive away.

    I was talking to him today and he's coming over tomorrow to have a look around and give me some advice on where would be acceptable to put a cabinet. He didn't rule out putting it in the barn/office if the locks are sufficient, and mentioned that he knew of several people in the area whose shotguns are stored in an outbuilding. Ammunition would be locked in my safe.
     
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    I want to live where you live!
     
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    Well, that went really well!

    There should be no problem with approval for siting my shotgun cabinet in the agricultural barn given that it has a concrete floor and walls that the cabinet can be bolted into, being behind two locked doors, and having IR CCTV with remote backup.

    Downloaded the new application forms and putting my application in ASAP.
     
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    I would wait until your interview before actually fitting the cabinet though.
    Feo,s are under a lot of pressure at the moment to make sure Things are done by the book.
    You could be asked to fit an alarm connecting your outbuilding to your house ect before approval.
    I would buy my cabinet stand it in place and wait for my interview. If the FEO wants it putting somewhere else no harm done. Your certificate would then be hand delivered after its grant and the security arrangements the feo had required checked before handing over the certificate.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    The cabinet is already in and bolted to the floor. That's what he was happy with. It's just used to store the airguns at the moment.

    I run my businesses out of this building, hence why it has an office in it as well as a separate telephone/internet and all sorts of equipment like chainsaws and brushcutters.
     

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