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Where to Shoot?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Cambs_Shotter, Mar 17, 2014.

  1. Cambs_Shotter

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    Heyy peoples. Im new here. and fairly new to the air gun hobby.

    I have owned a few air guns before, but only little springer pistols etc

    I live in Littleport, Cambs

    and really want to get into the hobby properly..
    I have always had a passion for guns, as i grew up with guns, gun dogs etc
    My father owns 4 shotguns, a rifle and a few pistols..

    Unfortunately i cannot get a Firearms certificate due to having a criminal record, But i like airguns too,

    So, getting into the hobby.. I will be buying my first gun, hopefully within the next couple of weeks or so..

    But i have a few questions, and most probably will do within the forseable future :D
    Id like to take good advantage of your knowledge..

    But back on to topic..

    Is there anywhere to shoot in Cambridgeshire??? Prefrably local to Littleport.. The closer the better..

    2nd question, which ties into the first question..
    Motorbikes!!!! I own a motorbike, and it is the only form of transport that i own...
    Is there any legal issues with transporting my air rifle while travelling backwards and forwards to a place of shooting??

    3rd question.. Although i will be starting off with shooting tin cans and targets in my garden, to improve my skills and accuracy.. I understand the laws about where is fine to shoot, and distances between roads etc..
    But when it comes to vermin... Is it fine to shoot them within your back garden? If so.. What is allowed to be shot???

    I live in a privately rented house, my landlady is my neighbour.. and she does not care what i do in the gardenn
    (she even gave me permission to dig the garden up and build a mini motocross track for my son) :D


    Thanks
     
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  2. Kenbarcon

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    :welcome: to the forum, someone will be along soon to answer your questions.
     
  3. Harwich Shooter

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    A warm welcome to the forum. Nice friendly helpful bunch on here.


    The best place to start would be to read the stickies on where to and how to gain shooting permissions. Make a nice cup of coffee and settle down to read. It will take a while but will be worth it. Also join BASC (or similar) to get insurance and to read up on what you can shoot and where.

    As far as transporting your rifle on your motorbike. No problem as long as it is unloaded and in a bag. I would not use a gunbag in this instance but a fishing rod holdall.
    Folks are more likely to be happier if they think you are off fishing rather than looking at a gunbag slung over your shoulder.

    A criminal record is OK regarding airgun ownership but serving a long custodial sentence would be a problem. Do a search for the precise limitations on this.
     
  4. Cambs_Shotter

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    Hi there and thanks for your reply..

    Yeah i was thinking about placing the gun in an bag that hides what it actually is.. Perhaps like a padded gun bag to protect the gun, and then that bag in a different style bag.. :D

    And with regards to the criminal record... I have served a custodial sentence, Last year.. But it wasnt long.. less than 6 months..
    Maybe i should perhaps ring my local police station and find out exactly where i stand on this, just to be on the safe side...

    I did take some time to read up on some of the stickies available on the forum, and i am finding them to be very useful so far :D

    Thankyou
     
  5. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    If your sentence was for over 6 months, regardless of how long you actually served you cannot, by law, own or be in possession of a firearm, including an air rifle or air pistol for 5 years after the date you were released from custody. Sorry old chap!
     
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  6. Clubshot

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    Section 21 - Police & Clubs are very tight on this - Check with Police or Court - Aware that offenders are advised if Section 21 Restricted

    BOB/R
     
  7. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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  9. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Some rum beggars down Littleport!

    (Ex Sutton boy here)
     
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    "(2)A person who has been sentenced . . .

    to imprisonment for a term of three months or more but less than three years [or to youth custody [or detention in a young offender institution] for such a term], or who has been sentenced to be detained for such a term in a detention centre or in a young offenders institution in Scotland [or who has been subject to a secure training order [or a detention and training order]], shall not at any time before the expiration of the period of five years from the date of his release have a firearm or ammunition in his possession"

    Sorry, OP, but I'm afraid you fall into this category, so it would be an offence for you to possess an air rifle, which despite not using a chemical propellant, is classed as a firearm.
     
  11. Cambs_Shotter

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    i got sentenced to 2 months, and did 28 days in custody... So i should be fine???
     
  12. Barcelona68

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    Nope you have a 5 year ban from all firearms including air rifles/pistols.

    Sorry dude.
     
  13. Kenbarcon

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    Hows that work, Jackroadkill posted a section saying that three months min gives you five year ban ?
    "(2)A person who has been sentenced . . .

    to imprisonment for a term of three months or more but less than three years
     
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  14. Meteor62

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    If it's less than 3 years it's a 5 year ban if it's over 3 years it's a life ban
     
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    "Firearms act"
    (1)A person who has been sentenced [F1to custody for life or] to preventive detention, or to imprisonment or to corrective training for a term of three years or more [F1or to youth custody [F2or detention in a young offender institution] for such a term], or who has been sentenced be detained for such a term in a young offenders institution in Scotland, shall not at any time have a firearm or ammunition in his possession.


    (2)A person who has been sentenced . . . F3 to imprisonment for a term of three months or more but less than three years [F4or to youth custody [F5or detention in a young offender institution] for such a term], or who has been sentenced to be detained for such a term in a detention centre or in a young offenders institution in Scotland [F6or who has been subject to a secure training order [F7or a detention and training order]], shall not at any time before the expiration of the period of five years from the date of his release have a firearm or ammunition in his possession.

    [F8(2A)For the purposes of subsection (2) above, “the date of his release” means—

    (a)in the case of a person sentenced to imprisonment with an order under section 47(1) of the Criminal Law Act 1977 (prison sentence partly served and partly suspended), the date on which he completes service of so much of the sentence as was by that order required to be served in prison

    "The guidance"
    General prohibitions
    5.5 Persons prohibited under section 21 of the 1968 Act (see paragraph 12.4 for its terms) may not possess any firearms or ammunition, not just those for which a certificate is required. Thus the prohibition extends to all air weapons, air gun pellets and shot gun ammunition.

    That's the full text incase thats what you were looking for ?
    Cheers Andy
     
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  16. secretagentmole

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    Should be fine, but check with the local police, the station in Ely will be able to advise you!
     
  17. Kenbarcon

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    Thats not what it says in the link from Jackroadkill.
     
  18. Kenbarcon

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    Thats how i read it, but Barcelona and meteor says different.
     
  19. Meteor62

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    One of us is getting confused here. The way I read what he put, backs up what I say.
     
  20. Kenbarcon

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    Possibly, i read it as '3 months and over, up to 3 years' gives you a 5 year ban.
     

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