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Whats the deal with weihrauch hw... 90,95,97 etc

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by panda32, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. panda32

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    I was told today that the reason weihrauch name there hw range is because it was the year that they were made ?? 90,95,97 etc

    If thats true where does hw100 come in ??
     
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    In the future.situated in a galaxy far far away :D

    I have no idea lol
     
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    Who ever told you there talking tosh
    That's not true


    the first hw80 came out in november 1981
    the first hw77 came out in 1982

    Couldn't answer your question though as to why they are named that
     
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    Hw100 - 2004
    Hw50v - 1950
    Hw30 - 1972
    Hw95 - this may be wrong - 1995
    Hw97k- 2001
    Hw97 mk1-1995
    Hw97 mkk2 - 1999
    Hw97 mk3 - 2002


    Dates from 'the blue book of airguns'
     
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    the guy who told me was a gunsmith, would like to know what the numbers mean if anybody has a idea...
     
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    Hw95 in 1972??? I don't think so....
     
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    nope you read it wrong, hw30 - 1972
    hw95 - 1995
     
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    I'd always been under the impression it was the year the blueprints/prototypes were designed or made - the 100 being 2000. Could be wrong: it might be the number of years since the inception of the HW brand when the gun was produced?

    Hans will no doubt tell the real reason if emailed.....
     
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    Hmmm, when was the hw 35 designed.....:D


    John
     
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    1983



    ATB Mick
     
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    no idea on the numbers.... surely HW is an abbreveation of sorts on Weihrauch?
     
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    So the Germans stopped making Machine guns and Tanks to make an Air Rfle? :rolleyes:


    1994

    Are you guessing at these ?




    All the best Mick
     
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    Maker's name ---Herman Weihrauch = HW


    All the best Mick
     
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    It is thought that the HW35 was indeed designed before WW2 so 35 could have been the year of design as in 1935.

    It is also thought that some HW35 prototypes were made before WW2 but none are known to exist.

    Production of Weihrauch Airguns as we know today began in 1951 with the 35 and then later the 50 --- though I'm not 100% sure when the HW50 production started.

    There is a lot more info on HW's early guns on the American Vintage Airgun Forum for anyone interested.





    All the best Mick
     
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    Interested in finding out why they designate numbers instead of names....maybe a german thing...thinking along the lines...Mauser 98....mp40.....mg42
     
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    These are dates I have taken from 'the blue book of airguns' take it up with them if you don't believe they are correct
     
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    The number relates to the number of threads on any gun forum criticizing Weihrauch for a drop in quality :)
     
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    It's not that I don't believe them hwkai

    It's that I know for a fact that some of those dates are wrong and this is not the first time the blue book has been incorrect. ;)

    Even though Bob Beeman who wrote the Bluebook also designed the 77 and 80 his dates don't correspond with early interviews given by Herman Weihrauch --- they don't even correspond with the release of these guns as shown in Airgunworld, Airgunner or SAR or the official announcements given by Hull Cartridge.

    Trying to piece together Weihrauch history is difficult enough without Beemans misinformation.

    From 1951 to 1971 is pretty much covered on the AVAF, and from 1977 onwards is well documented from Airgun Magazines.

    The missing years in the 1970s are the ones we have trouble with as a few things aren't documented regarding the HW35.

    Such as :-
    When did the transfer port change from 4mm to 2.8mm ?
    when did the scope rails go from 13mm to 11mm ?
    When was the single sided safety introduced ?
    When was the double sided safety introduced ?

    The only fact we have from this period is the introduction of the synthetic piston seal at SN843636


    Now the 1940 date quoted for Weihrauch production start has another problem in that the original Weihrauch factory in Zella St Blasii was lost during WW2 and Weihrauch only set up their new bicycle manufacturing factory in Bavaria in 1948.


    The 1994 date for the introduction of the 97 comes from Airgun Mags of the time and Hull Cart adverts --- you can also double check this with the serial numbers and production dates we know of.





    All the best Mick
     
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    i,m going back to bed :yawn:
     

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