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What's the best Pellet

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by i8allthepies, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. mattyts

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    Old Post but this is exactly what i do in my pcp :)
     
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    JSB exact, AA field, Accupels, RWS super domes, bisley magnum.. ill use most and still 'cant hit a cows arse with a banjo' lol....:D
     
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    RWS SUPERDOMES
     
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    "I’ll assume you’ve already decided which caliber suits you best"?
    OK I may be missing something obvious but what about those target pellets that come in different sizes. I refer to something like the H&N match flat nosed pellets in sizes 4.48, 4.49, 4.50, and 4.51 What would be the different characteristics of these slight varients in the overall trajectories [h=1][/h][h=1][/h]
     
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    Hi All,

    I'd been shooting open sighted antique .177 guns for 30 years not really needing to care much about pellet choice, just what my newsagent had behind the counter, they all seemed the same to me. Then only last year I got the opportunity to have a go at some rabbits on private ground so thought it time to get something a bit more accurate and more thump.

    I got a pristine secondhand B20 .22 springer and set up a new scope on paper targets using the previous meticulous owner's recommended RWS Superfields. With the recoil, I thought I was doing ok getting around walnut size groups at 25 yard zero range (using padded shooting sticks and tripod seat as I do when ambush hunting). The pellets are 15.9gr and certainly hit with a thump but over 30 yards, they dropped off quickly (gun chrono'd at 11.8ftlb with these) and faded to the right. I was told my scope or gun must be not upright but another check proved it was ok...then came a big plus in my shooting, I was put onto the lighter (13.4gr) Falcon Accuracy Plus pellets that seem to transform my gun, I'm not as crap a shooter as I thought..!! My groups have come down to 2p size consistantly and hold a very true vertical out to 35 yards and beyond with much less allowance required. I was even hitting a 35mm disc target fairly regularly at the club at 55 yards with them. They still knock rabbits over humainly at my self imposed 30 yards range limit and oddly still chrono at 11.8ftlb, I tried a mates 14.3gr RWS Superdomes and they go through at only 10.8ftlb..!! So if you've set your gun up on these at the recommended 11.5ftlb, I'd recheck the power with other pellets if I were you as you could well be heading towards the 13 mark..

    The wind doesn't really upset accuracy too much with the Falcons as I don't go if it's blowing a gale and range is short enough to not notice. I find accuracy over weight of thump is helping me no end.

    Cheers........David
     
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  6. Annasue

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    Why should you want to hunt pellets,stick to the normal vermin.
     
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    Matty i got some RWS hobbys for plinking for my MPR as i love them for plinking with my 2240. The .177 ones dont seem to fit my MPR?!?!

    Jay
     
  8. Theocrat

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    This is the same way I think, buy small amounts of each type you want to try, shoot about 5 groups of 5 each, one of those 5 target sheets would work great for this, and may the best pellet for your particular gun win. Then write the brand and model of pellet on their respective targets. Then you can decide to do the same thing for each type you plan on using, like for hunting, plinking etc. and you would have found the best pellet in each catagory for each application. Save your test targets and everytime you want to compare a new type of pellet, you already have the targets of your previous tests ready to compare. This is what I would call the scientific approach.
     
  9. HEXiT

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    had a day at the range today, up at steve smiths shooting grounds (First visit). went with a mate and his 2 boys. he was using some cheap as chips pellets in his crossman phantom while i used my (supposedly superior quality) accupells in my norica. i was surprised to see him hitting everything he and his boys were aiming at (1/2inch, 1inch 2 inch spinners at 35 yards consistently) , while i was struggling to get even zero'd. after 30 or 40 pellets i was thinking my scope was not holding the zero then i hit 4 or 5 consistent shots where i was hitting just off what i was aiming at, then i started getting fliers again. as frustration set in i decided enough was enough, time to go get a bacon buttie as my target was starting to look like it got hit with a shotgun.
    any ways i came back and got back to it but this time i took notice of the tighter fit of some pellets (even though they are supposed to be weighed and sorted) the tighter 1s seem to fly off while the 1s that slipped in snugly but easily hit the target consistently. even hitting shotgun shells at 35 yards or more both end on and upright.
    the only conclusion i can come to from this is, that even the supposedly premier pellets like webleys accupells (£10+ a tin sorted and washed ?)have variation, but it wont show itself properly till you get out at range. my guess is there quality control isnt as tight as it should be because my rifle liked only some of pellets from the tin. i know some brands come marked 55.4 or 55.5 but webley dont even put the grain on the tin and with no batch number i couldnt be sure i would be getting another tin of turkeys so decided not to bother with em again.

    so lesson for today is even if you think your pellets are working well, test them at more than 30 yards as thats the only way you will know if there consistent.
    got a tin of RWS hobbys for £7.50 so far so good. pellet on pellet'ish @15 yards something i was struggling to do with the accupells, but at least now i know why.
    i hope i have some of these left for the next trip to the range as i think i may have a winner with these.(hope so as there pretty cheap and look a well made quality pellet)
    so just because you hear something is good , dont take our word for it, try em yourself as i found out today. guns can be very fussy even with pellets from the same tin.
     
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    For target shooting how do Webley Accupell domed stack up against say, JSB and Air Arms? The owner of my local gunshop swears by them and discounts them down to £6.32 for a 500 tin.
     
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    at that price i would try them. but to be honest they are inconsistent in size. they certainly aint worth more than what he's offering them at(some shops charge as much as £11 a tin. 1 things for sure. if your rifle likes them it will likely not be a pellet fussy rifle. meaning you can shoot the cheapest pellets and get decent results. but for the rest of us i would say there over priced for what they are.
     
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    just got my mitts on 2 tins of rws super's, super domes and super h points... i gotta say they are everythin i hoped they would be. i was almost ready to give up on getting accuracey out my rifle. i thought it may actually be a dud barrel. but tonight i layed all that behind me... pellet on pellet with both types... woohoo!!! way to go rws...
     
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    SS-Sampler-Large-02.jpg

    http://www.straightshooters.com/choose-a-pellet-p2.html
    i pm's these to see if they can import there pellet tester packs. if there is no issue i will update this post when i get a reply.

    http://www.straightshooters.com/straight-shooters-full-pellet-sampler-.177.html 177 tester pack with 32 different kinds of pellet thats 25x32=800 tester pellets for $35 or £21 +p'n'p very much a cheaper option to the current 3 pellet tester packs you can get from H&N or such.

    http://www.straightshooters.com/straight-shooters-full-pellet-sampler-.22.html .22 18x25=450 pellets again for $35 or £21 +p'n'p not quite as good value as the 177 box but still a lot better than any other tester box suppler in the uk.

    they do a .20 box and a .25 box they can be found from the top link.
    15x25 pellets in .20 @ $25 or £15.50 +p'n'p
    15x25 pellets in .25 @ $35 or £21 +p'n'p
     
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    thanks mate :)
     
  15. Clubshot

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    Joys of being a Club shooter

    Is that often have prearranged Day's when several buy different - New Pellets
    and have Exchange Sessions to try the latest in Our Guns

    BOB/R
     
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    DAYSTATE FT .177
     
  17. scottyshot71

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    I just got back into my guns after 20 years and got a TX200 carbine and funny you mention it those are exactly the first 2 tins of ammo I've picked..
     
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    I don't think anyone knows! ;)
     
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    Be great to have something similar here in the U.K.
     
  20. sqwiffy

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    I don't see how a pointed (conical) pellet somehow flies better and penetrates better than a round head. The drag coefficient of a cone is about 20% greater than a hemisphere.


    The BC for a Roundhead is better, therefore it maintains its velocity better, thus has more energy when it gets to its target. It will also have a flatter trajectory.


    Since aerodynamics and hydrodynamics are the same (only the medium is thicker) then penetration will be better with the lower drag roundhead. However....


    Have a read of http://www.airhunter.ru/pelletco/pelletco.htm.


    I don't think that putty is a particularly good alternative for flesh, perhaps a ballistics gel would have been a better medium.
     

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