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What's best for my R-10, tench reg and x tune from XTX air or blueprint with standard reg from Bowke

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by hywel1984, Mar 15, 2014.

  1. hywel1984

    hywel1984 Engaging Member

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    What would you guys recommend for my R-10 out of fitting a tench reg and x tune from XTX air or blueprint with standard reg from Bowkett?
    Their both roughly the same price now Bowkett has put the price of his blueprint up. What in your guys opinion will give a more consistent accurate gun?

    Any help or opinions would be great to help me make my mind up.
     
  2. El Caro

    El Caro Keyboard Hero

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    Bowkett doesn't fit the "standard" reg. with his Blueprint.
     
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    He doesn't change the reg, just alter the original one. If you fit a tench reg its a totally different more stable reg
     
  4. El Caro

    El Caro Keyboard Hero

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    That is not correct according to his blurb:)



    "The regulator as fitted to these has changed considerably, at one time almost weekly, and now has to have all of its internals either heavily modified or replaced altering the design to one that actually works and that I can cover with my guarantee."
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Nope he changes it!

    To the OP. For crying out loud, send it back to the man who designed it, the man who will improve it, make it more reliable, more air efficient, more consistent and like the gun it should be rather than the gun BSA turned it into!
     
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    Is what he changes it to better than a tench reg? Gutted he's just put his price up, only just missed out on the lower price!
     
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    darryn at xtx in worc has done some work on my gun and he is the dogs b******s.i know he is busy as hell at the moment so would be best to give him a bell first
     
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    i have much respect for xtx and his work
    but where the R10 is concerned my money would go on the jb blueprint
    you then get the rifle jb designed and not the rifle penny pinching accountants designed
    if my new r10 goes tits up its off to jb and not back to bsa so they can bodge it
    but touch wood mine is fine at the mo:)
     
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    It seems to be a no-brainer to me ?

    Get THE Man JB to fix it how it should have always been (and some) and get his lifetime garrenty along with it ?

    Why compromise on the best, you'll only regret it later.
     
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    Yes, the man who got his sums wrong and designed it BADLY and plain WRONG, which is why it needs changing. The wole original R10 was wrong on the valving and regulator, but it was the long time BSA design consultant who did it and now makes a living out of "fixing his mistake". The R10 gave BSA a massive headache with this inherent problem which is why they went to Simon for the redesign of the regulator, valve and porting of the R10 2.

    Go to Darrin and either get a Tench (Simon) regulator, OR one of the Dutch ones that Darrin is the importer for. He will tell you which one is best.

    I know JB for years but he made a monumental blunder with the R10 and that was why he was dropped by BSA. His early work with big bores led the world, but his lifetime gaurantee is only going to last so long - how old is he now?
     
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    Most journalists, especially of the failed variety, instead of working to the code of truthfulness, accuracy and objectivity nowadays have "never let the truth stand in the way of a good story" as their code of ethics.
     
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    Everyone is telling me to go to JB but he's twice as expensive as XTX or rat works and I'm only a casual shooter at best so I think I'll go for a standard tune from one XTX or rat works and buy a huggett silencer with the money I save. I'm sure Darrin or Phil will improve my rifle no end. It can already shoot much better than me
     
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    what are the Dutch regs you mentioned? are they as good as a tench reg? do you know how much they are?
    thanks
     
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    I can't remember, because I am old and stupid, and too lazy to look for my notes.:D Give darrin a ring and ask him, that way you won't get mixed up info - he has some special moderators too, especially fot the R10.
     
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    Who is it you are thinking of? Anyone we know?
     
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    You don't have Darrin's phone number by any chance do you?
     
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    It's on his web site. Best to ring up first. Had mine over 4 weeks and still waiting :-(
     
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    The alternative reg is a Huub reg imported bt XTX.

    Now for some advice. Why do you want it tuned ? Is it accurate ?

    Have you checked it over a chrono over a 60 or 100 shot string and found it has a spread >20 fps.

    If the answer to the first question is yes then don't bother,save your money.

    If the spread is less than 20 fps then the standard reg is good enough.

    I have a tench reg fitted in mine and I am pleased overall but its not as consistant as some people would have you believe. Over a full shot string down to 100 bar I get a spread of 22 with a standard deviation of 4fps. I do however get more shots per charge and I can fill to 232 bar without the first shots being low, I could only fill to 200 bar with the standard reg.

    The reason why JB is dearer is because he changes parts whereas the others may modify them.

    .just my opinion
     

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