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Question What would you expect the power to be.........?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by man-tee, Mar 19, 2014.

  1. man-tee

    man-tee Engaging Member

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    Hi one and all,

    So I have my (new to me) shiny Daystate in .177 and I am very pleased with it.

    I do need to test more but for now the average power at the sharp end is under 10 ft lb.
    I just wanted to get a general opinion of pcp power levels from members please.

    Many thanks to you all.
     
  2. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    I'd ideally want around 11.5ftlb.. but of course this will depend on pellet type and mass, fill pressure... ;)
     
  3. jps norton

    jps norton One Hit Wonder

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    Anywhere between 10.5 and 11.5 would be acceptable.
    If it`s under 10ftlb I`d say it is a little low.

    As cloverleaf said ... it would depend on the weight of pellet you are using when testing the Daystate

    Which Daystate model is it?
     
  4. timmytree

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    It may creep up a bit but personally I would want it reset at around 11ftlbs.
    Under 10 is not acceptable.
     
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    10.5 - 11.8
     
  6. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    1) What pressure have you filled it to? They do have a Max fill level and a Recommended fill level.

    2) What pellets are you using? Lightweight and 4.5mm will not be as powerful as a heavyweight 4.52mm.
     
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    yep that sound crap
     
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    I like mine to be around 11.3 keeping them within the law but nearer to 12 than 10. Anything below 10 I would get looked at but daystates are not cheap to have serviced.
     
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  9. man-tee

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    Update:
    It was just filled in the shop to 200psi. This is where it was tested at below 10.
    I've fired about 10 before this test from full. (Spec says 80 full powered shots so just in the yellow zone)
    It's a Regal .177 and I have AA Fields so the weight on the tin is 8.4g
    I've just put a few through it on the Cromby cb-625 Mk4.
    FPS PDS
    760 10.77
    762 10.84
    765 10.92
    767 10.99
    767 10.82
    763 10.86
    765 10.92
    To me this looks much better. Where as I thought I would be talking it back to Daystate now I don't see any point.
    There must be heavier pellets which would push up the readings.
     
  10. mattyts

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    I would be happy with that..adequate power and little chance of breaching the limit :up:
     
  11. stevemandm

    stevemandm Honorary Member

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    those readings are just about bang on mate. a bisley magnum (10.65 grain) will prob push it up to 11.5ftlb - perfect.
    Maybe just fill to 180 bar in future
     
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  12. man-tee

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    Thanks Stevemandm and Mattyts, I am much happier now, especially as I don't need to send it away any more.
    Would you say that the 'bisley magnum (10.65 grain)' are about the heaviest .177 pellets you can buy?

    Are there still sample packs of different types people sell so you can try so see which one suits best, as I've only had the AA Field.
     
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    There are heavier,I think Piledrivers are pretty heavy and RWS brought out a really heavy pellet recently.

    Yeah,there are still sample packs going around
     
  14. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Depends where you go, RFD/Gunsmith near me charges £40 plus parts to service a Mark 3! He is a Daystate accredited service agent as well!
     
  15. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    To the OP, I have one of the heavier pellets that is hellishly accurate in my BSA Super 10. It is the Defiant Ogive 4.52mm 11 grain. Now seeing as we may not be far apart, why dont you PM me the town you live in and I can see if I am wombling through at any point, especially if you are over towards the Lincs border area! See what power and precision you can achieve with a superb pellet (I do not rate JSB at all).
     
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    I don't think Ft/Lbs matter much so long as you can hit what you're aiming at. My TX200 is 10 Ft/Lb and every bit as accurate as my 11.5 Ft/Lb HW100.
     
  17. stevemandm

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    as said, there are the piledrivers at 20 odd grain, but they are really for fac, and would be used and probably tested as such.
    the heaviest 'readily available' ones are bisley magnums 10.65 gr, crosman premier ultramagnums 10.5gr and weihrauch magnums 10.4 gr.
    we have the crosmans and the weihrauchs (the ultra loves both), so if you pm me your details, we will send you a few to try.

    ps, h&n make their baracuda match 10.65gr, weihrauch magnum 10.4gr and bisley magnum 10.65gr - essentially the same pellet of varying quality and weight (quality is in this order, starting with best) ..... boring fact, but some say i'm a geek !
     
  18. man-tee

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    Thanks to you all for your posts.
    There is some real kindness on this site, and after the rubbish week I've had that is very welcome indeed!
    Cheers.
     
  19. man-tee

    man-tee Engaging Member

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    From Stevemandm
    as said, there are the piledrivers at 20 odd grain, but they are really for fac, and would be used and probably tested as such.
    the heaviest 'readily available' ones are bisley magnums 10.65 gr, crosman premier ultramagnums 10.5gr and weihrauch magnums 10.4 gr.
    we have the crosmans and the weihrauchs (the ultra loves both), so if you pm me your details, we will send you a few to try.

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    I've pm'd Stevemandm but wanted to publicly thank him for his generosity.
    Asking no payment or help with postage I was sent some samples of both types of pellets.
    (and I am a complete nobody, still can not believe someone could be that kind)
    What a very kind person, thanks to you and these forum pages.
    So many good people offering sound advice, it's very unusual that someone speaks out of turn.
    A large bunch of decent people - thanks to you all.
    All the best.
     
  20. mark112

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    Hi,

    Some figures to consider from my S400 (10 shots of each pellet fired in sequences of 3 in order to eliminate power curve from the equation):-

    JSB Exact 4.52 8.4grain 11.1ft.lbs
    Daystate Heavies 10.25 grains 11.67ft.lbs
    Bisley Magnums 10.6 grains 11.47ft.lbs

    Point is that it may not be the heaviest pellet that produces the 'goods'. You'll need to try/chrono as many types as possible.

    Mark
     

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