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What To Do

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics' started by Regal Man, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. Regal Man

    Regal Man Keyboard Hero

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    I'm thinking about getting night vision, thinking about a addon, or going sod it, I'll have a digital scope instead.
    I believe, you get what you pay for. So I'll say 1.5 k
    On a digital scope.
    What I have at the mo, is a light stream, 4.5×14×44. Love the scope. Will a Addon work well with one . Or should I think about parting with it, to make way for a digital day/night scope. And carry spare batteries with me.
    As tital says, what to do.
     
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    PW1 Shooting the breeze.

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    Well worth looking at the Pard NV008 scope, it seems well regarded as was the Pard NV007 add-on.

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  3. Regal Man

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    I've had a look at the ,pard007, it looks ok. But wondering, if it's worth the money, or it's been made on the cheap, and cost is due to tax and shipping.
    If was to spend another 400 on a scope, for airrifle use, it would be near to end.
    But when, this night vision is talked about 400 seems the starting point, going up to into the thousands
     
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    No digital scope is going to give as good an image as even a cheap optical scope (reasonable brand) so if your night usage is a relatively small part of your shooting then a rear add on is likely to be the better option. Building your own is by far the cheapest way to go and you can get a top performing unit for around £200 which you can swap between scopes as required. If you are looking at only night usage then a dedicated nv scope, such as a Photon, is the way to go. You need to consider your priorities before deciding.
     
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    For 1.5 K you can have a dedicated night vision rifle with a photon on it .
     
  6. Regal Man

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    That is true, but you know I've got the holy grail, of a gun,At long last. No way would I gamble, on another gun and take a chance, I'm more than happy with the gun I have. As you know its, been known, to out shoot, your FAC Rapid in the field.
    I do see your point though, but I'm not going, down that route.
     
  7. Regal Man

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    You really are, talking sence. Night shooting, will only be a small part of my shooting. Do you think a Addon will work on a Light Stream ?
    I do prefer, to look through the scope, rather than looking at a screen, mounted on top. So what would a great add on cost. Is it better than clamping?
     
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    If you want to 'look through' a rear add on it's going to mean moving your head back some way in order to see the near eye screen and any recoil would give you a black eye! People do use them but it's not for me.
    Having a screen does mean a change to your shooting but it doesn't have to be mounted above your scope, you can put it anywhere you like - within reason. I prefer to have mine on the left side of the scope, about half way along and I shoot with the rifle held at chest level, not in the shoulder. This suits me well and the screen is dimmed and tipped down a touch so that the light doesn't illuminate my face too much. It helps to preserve my night vision while using a Photon/X Sight or other near eye device means that one eye retains night vision while the other can see nothing which I find unsettling.
    I have no experience of a Light Stream scope but it is probable that it will work fine, it's only a few top end scopes that have IR cut coatings.
    The little experience that I have with add ons offered for sale is that they are either over priced, under specced, just rubbish or a combination of all of these and I much prefer one that I build myself. Self builds allow you to tailor it to suit all your requirements rather than having to fit around someone elses idea of how you should shoot. A really top spec home build should be possible for less than £200 including a torch although this would not include a recording facility which is something that has never bothered me. Fitting to your scope is a matter of personal choice and can be influenced by the form of the eyepiece on your scope. I prefer to use a rigid tube which is a snug slide on fit but some scopes have a threaded section surrounding the lens which can also be used.
     
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    You are really helpful,. I've been on the internet, most of today and yesterday, looking at add ons.
    And also day and night scopes.
    They both have colour, during the day, black and white at night.

    Now I'm more confused, about what to do.
    I'll send you a pm
     
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    A while ago I followed Terry's video and built one myself. Terry helped me with the adapter for the Mamba lite scope and as an add on it works great. As Terry says it was a lot cheaper than buying new and I am sure things have moved on even more since I built mine.

    I did struggle a little bit with a screen set up and I also have an original Photon 5x42 with doubler - it's ok and does the job, but there are much better versions out there now.

    Unfortunately the only way to see if you like shooting via a screen is to use one.....

    From what I see of the latest x sites etc they seem excellent quality - maybe you could start with an older model to see which format you prefer?

    Whereabouts in Cambs are you? I might be over that way very soon and I'll stick both in the car :D
     
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    What rifle is it going on?
     
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    HW100SK.
     
  13. Regal Man

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    You sir, are a diamond, sent you a pm
     
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    It’s a no brainer then, the Pard NV008 is what you need, and with your budget you can buy 3!!!!
     
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    You would buy, a pard 008, and do away with the light stream. That's a option.
     
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    Yes, all day long, it’s basically what i’ve done for my HMR and FAC Impact.
    Let’s be clear, no digital scope will ever be as good as quality glass but there is a compromise when it comes to hunting/pest control and the 008 fits the bill, a one scope solution.
    I’ve made add ons and used Photons but they don’t work in the day.
     
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    I've been told also, from else where ATN 4k pro is the nuts, so now I'm thinking about that too.
     
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    In your budget is the Pulsar NV450 with an extra IR light. Expensive, yes, but superb piece of equipment. Photons are garbage in my opinion, thought it great initially but after a bit of use found it total piece of junk. But the Pulsar
     
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    Very good, but different. It’s larger and heavier and you will need a decent ir torch or laser which also adds to the weight, it has an add on rangefinder that links up to the scope.
     
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    That's included with it. The rangefinder
     

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