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What Gun Is This? And What Do I Do With It?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by hamza, Jun 17, 2019.

  1. hamza

    hamza Engaging Member

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    So the picture here is the first air rifle I ever had.
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    I think its a Relum of some description but I could well be wrong about that. Anyone able to identify it?

    The markings don't provide many clues, just a serial number "Made in Hungary" and LG 425 (I think).
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    Secondly, its not in great condition. You can see the barrel is pitted with what I think is rust, the front sight is missing. It still fires and according to a local RFD is making about 5ftlbs. No idea what that compares to what it would have done new. The piston though apparently is in poor condition and is an old leather one.

    Again, if I recall (this was a long long time ago), I think I had put a square section spring in it myself (I was probably about 14 at the time). The original spring will be long lost.

    The scope is functional of sorts but pretty awful (but what I learnt with) and a bit battered, but a new 3-9x40 is cheap enough second hand to replace it with I guess.

    So is it worth sorting out? Worth doing anything to it at all? What would it cost to fix up and what is it worth (if anything!).

    Thanks!
     
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    It's a relum . . A classic mate . . . Similar to the bsa super sport . . . Most here would of had one as a kid, value wise these are awkward. . . As it's old and not best made . . . But a classic and those wanting the rifle they had as kids will pay top dollar, condition plays a big part but again if to much been done it will affect the price, a period scope on this would make it a great combo . Tbh if you dont need the cash keep it , gentle restore it . . And pull it out when your mates mention the gat gun and the good old days
     
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    Oh I don't think I'd sell it either way.

    Just wondering if its worth fixing up or not.
     
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    mikeyhall1 Pepe Le Pew

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    Likely says 429 or 422 rather than 425 - and it’s exactly that, a Relum LG42?
     
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    mikeyhall1 Pepe Le Pew

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    Fact of the day...

    Relum is the reverse of Muller, the owner:thumb:

    I thank you :D
     
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    Not very good when new, not worth much and generally not very good.
    If it has sentimental value I would clean it up and put it up as an ornament. If you want to restore it you can still get all the parts but quite honestly, even in good nick they are pretty dire.
     
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    mikeyhall1 Pepe Le Pew

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    Sadly Relum’s aren’t known for decent money, it’s likely worth well under £100. Nice piece of nostalgia though.
     
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    guess i'll just keep an eye out for a cheap scope to stick on it and make usable and add it to the collection as a poor performing relic to remind me of what a bad gun is then :);)
     
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    Or tune the sh@t out of it . . Make it as good as a pro sport . . . Walk into the range and watch the faces as you pellet on pellet with an oldie :D, I did it with an SMK once and loved the £1000 plus rifle boys go get at the fact smk went to to toe with a red wolf:thumb:
     
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    See what I mean about value . . . 2 people say its bot worth much . . . But to me *,I had one) I'd pay a pretty penny for it as it brings back memories of better days
     
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    Replace the piston seal, get another front sight and use it as an open sights garden plinker?
    I remember one of my mates buying a Tornado and thinking he could beat me with my Sharp Innova. At 25 yards he had a job to hit the backstop let alone the target!
    I worked for the highways at the time and used the Innova to knock off pheasants on the roadside. Great times! :D
     
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    I once swapped a 2 week old HW98 and it was amazing to use. . . For an old Wembley eclipse just for the fact I had one and loved it and sentimental value made me part with the 98 in a heart beat, the guy sold my 98 on for massive money, I gave the Wembley to my dad as it was his dream gun as a kid
     
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    mikeyhall1 Pepe Le Pew

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    That’s the thing though mate, you don’t need to pay a pretty penny for one.... there’s loads about and for peanuts..
     
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    See I dont come across many mate . . . And this one looks pretty dam good tbh, I bet the steeli ts made from is from the good old days too, I really envy our great mod clover . . As all the rifles I've had as a kid the guy has had and made amazing . . . The days when I would Brag I had a BSA :facepalm:
     
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    ...only with one 'L'
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    mikeyhall1 Pepe Le Pew

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    Yup... I know lol
     
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    I got around to buying a chrono and tried it out on the old Relum above and got the following

    Description: Relum LG with RWS Superdomes .177
    Distance to Chrono(FT): 1
    Bullet Weight(gr): 8.30
    Temp: 23 °C
    BP: 1015.00 inHg
    # FPS FT-LBS PF
    10 613 6.93 5.09
    9 623 7.15 5.17
    8 605 6.75 5.02
    7 597 6.57 4.96
    6 629 7.29 5.22
    5 626 7.22 5.20
    4 648 7.74 5.38
    3 646 7.69 5.36
    2 652 7.84 5.41
    1 622 7.13 5.16

    Quite a large variation, but around 7ish ftlbs. Does that seem about right for one of these or does it indicate more that it’s time for a strip down?

    Also can the rust on the barrel be sorted? What would it cost?
     
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    Why not look at it as a bit of a challenge and see if you can improve it? You could learn quite a lot about restoration along the way! Good luck. :thumb:
     
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    That square section spring didn't do it any favors, if you decide to do it up,use a standard spring otherwise with a leather piston seal it will be badly oversprung.
     
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    Your first rifle is a nice thing to have, sort it out and keep it!
     
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