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What Clay Gun £5k Budget

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by Petay, Oct 15, 2020.

  1. Petay

    Petay Donator

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    Had my 690 black for 9 months. It shoots well enough but I've not really connected with it, doesn't make me smile when I pick it up.

    Looking for options in the £5k bracket, new or second hand. Something with nice wood on it.

    Thoughts?
     
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    £5K is out of my price bracket i'm afraid, have you looked at the Caesar Guerini range? They have some beautiful guns in their line up. general opinion is that they are extremely good value.
    I have recently bought a Summit Ascent and personally i can't fault it. nice wood, perfectly balanced, comes with 8 chokes in a nice ABS case with a 10 year warranty.
     
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    A nice Blaser or second hand Perazzi perhaps?
     
  4. Petay

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    I've been contemplating a CG Invictus grade 3 as it's just in bracket but I never see anyone with them and it makes me wonder why.

    Blaser F3 is defo on the radar but second hand as it would need to be is a bit of a mine field i am told as they have revised the gun so many times so knowing age and doing homework is needed.

    Looking at Perazzi and if love one but it has to come from someone who'll let me try before I buy as each gun is so individual and the classic shoulder and swing it about for a bit in the shop routine won't do
     
  5. Figgy

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    With Perazzi make sure the gun fits or is close enough to be fitted to you. Lots of them have been fitted to customers with it being free on new purchase.
    You may struggle with your budget to get a Perazzi with nice wood, most of the nice stocks would have cost your budget as an upgrade when new also the handling will be very different to the Caesar Guerini.
    The Invictus Accent Summit is a decent clay gun and five friends shoot them. Very close in handling and fit to the Kreighoff K80 supersport.
    The blsser F3 Pro is a nice gun but prices have gotten silly in the last few years. My mate would get. More for his now than when he bought it four years ago. You can get some real nice wood on the Blasers if you look around.avoid early Invictus clay guns they had rust issues with the barrel finish, a few I know had to be sent back to be sorted. But don't let it put you off they can take some abuse and pattern very very well with the maxis chokes. The ten year warranty is good and the UK importers are good.
    The latest DT11 used is a good gun and sensible buy too.
    Try as many as you can and then decide on which make and model you want, then start searching for the right gun.
    I'd never buy a expensive gun new, you loose too much,. Go for a nearly new one, there will be some about where people bought and couldn't get on with it.
    Your going the opposite way in your guns to myself. I sold my expensive clay gun, I realised that with modern manufacturing, the likes of Yildiz are making a pro sporter which you can swap parts with a Perazzi for a fraction of the cost. If you want to buy a safe bet that may go up over the next few years it would be a Blaser with nice woodwork.
     
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    I'm pretty sure you can get a secondhand Krieghoff for that.
     
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    If you do chances are it will be a old Arabesque engraved high shot count Kreighoff.
    To get a decent used K80 SuperSport, your looking at around 7k. You might be lucky and find a little used one bought when they were £7500.00 new before they went up to 10k. Using the rule of two thirds 5k would be right.
    I used to laugh and joke with my mate who was ready to buy a K80, then the new Caesar Guerini came out, he shot it and it was half the price new compared to a used K80. Comparing them I said it's so close I called it a C75 not quite a K80. If I had shot a Invictus before buying the K80 I too would have bought one. I can't see where the extra money is in a Kreighoff to justify its high price.
     
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    ^ ^^^^
    Here it is between the K and the f. :D
     
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    rich79 No deep or funny comment here

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    I can't see where the money goes in alot of shotguns past a certain price, unless they're handmade of course.
     
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    Even hand made these days has a lot of CNC machined parts in them. Purdey and Holland and Holland both use CNC made parts. Hand finished is what they should now be called.
     
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    I went round H&H back in about 99, the actions were cnc machined standing upwards, quite interesting really, they said they get art students in to learn the engraving.
     
  12. Petay

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    Shortlist to try

    beretta 694 (worry it'll feel similar to my 690 so I'll not be into it)

    CG Invictus (will probs aim for a grade 3)

    Blaser F3 (but a newer one ideally)

    And then it's whatever nice Perazzi I can find that fits

    I'm contemplating a Miriku Mk38 and a Browning 725 Prosport but I wasn't into the browning when I tried it before
     
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    A nice newer grade 5 mk38 is a good gun and not like one of old, barrel heavy and numb. The Browning 525 crown is a gun I like, fantastic handling and looks, but way overpriced for silver decoration, the gold inflated guns are cheaper.
    The UltraXS pro is another good looking and nice shooting gun, some ha e stunning wood too.
    If your looking at CG Invictus look for a good used grade 5.
    Personally I'd steer clear of perazzis, shot a fair few and some nice nice triggers but lots are very ugly and have floorboards for woodwork.
    Try a nice DT10, the later ones have the same chokes as your 690. Very nice guns, a mate has one that's a joy to shoot.
     
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    Browning ultra Xs pro nice gun everything you need for around 3.5 k new , don’t overlook a mk38 can order with an adjustable stock to lovely guns
     
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    Made my decision and paid my monies yesterday... See separate post.

    Suffice to say i am happy
     
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    foxtrott I'll be back

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    My dad had a hand made arther turner of Sheffield shot gun Real quality.
     
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    Dont go anywhere till you have at least had a look at the new Yildiz pro sporter. You wont get better wood and we cant fault the mechanics. As has been said most guns now "in your price bracket" are CNC made.
    Have a holiday with the change!
     
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    Where can you have a holiday atm:shrug:
     
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    Blazer F16 bought one in March ,grade 5 wood 32” barrels £2700 never shot better knocks spots off my beretta def worth a look
     

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