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What a difference a scope makes

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Bluefrog, Apr 3, 2014.

  1. Bluefrog

    Bluefrog Busy Member

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    Taken the Viper 10x44 off my S400 and realised what a difference the scope makes to the overall weight of the rifle when its on.

    650 odd grams makes a big difference. Lighter scope on the way !
     
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    I bet with the sun shade, metal flip up covers and side wheel they weigh even more well over 700grams.
    On a light weight gun i like a scope around 300grams.
     
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    What scope did you have in mind to replace the Viper ?
     
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    My mint Panorama 4-12x40 MAP6A. He had one before and scored consistently more with it than he ever did with those Vipers.
     
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    I cannot blame him, since getting my 4-12x40 pano map6a (cheers Pete) I have had the chance to put various other scopes on my hw100 and have never been able to find something i liked more than the pano. I would never have discovered the Map6a ret if it wasnt for last years AGF meet and Micks love of panos:D
     
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    Today Oz I bought the new Airmax SF30 and initial impressions are really good. I Still have two Panoramas to fall back on if it doesn't work out.
     
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    They look nice, perhaps a bit of a write up once you have got to grips with it?
     
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    Sunday I will know if it's a pup.
     
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    i will keep an eye out for the scores then;)
     
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    well im a total opposite since getting my mamba (thanks Ozzyj) and losing my pano im much happier mind you I do like NV and side focus is almost a must
     
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    Wee wee, anything above 500grams and it has to be worth the weight.

    Small good glass will be just as good and probably better than big Chinese/Korean glass imo.
     
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    And probably a lot more expensive
     
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    Well yes if you want the same features, such as fancy reticle and ir ao etc..... But that's part of choosing pro's and cons.... :cool:

    Simmons wtc aren't very expensive, neither are vortex vipers, nikons, bushnells compared to mtc and sidewinders....
     
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    I wouldn't particularly put any of those in the good glass brigade perhaps with the exception of a Nikon but yet to see one with a ret that suits me. Simmons in my opinion are run of the mill.
     
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    The chinese Simmons are nothing good, bushnells vary alot due to different places of manufacture and Nikon are consistent.

    Hawke for me, glass wise are probably the best chinese out there...
     
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    I wonder what the final cost to us would be, if Hawke had a run of Japanese scopes made, along the lines of the old Tasco models, but with up to date reticles.
     
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    I often thought that sort of thing, surely a reticle is simply a decision not a cost? Which is why I am a little confused to why so many scopes are lacking simple at least "fine un obtrusive" aim points as oppossed to 30/30, duplex etc....

    A phillipine glassed Hawke would interest me alot.
     

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