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Were Early Hw100 Pigs?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Lev Levvin, Dec 3, 2019 at 12:26 AM.

  1. Lev Levvin

    Lev Levvin Pro Poster

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    Ok... I make no bones about my dislike of HW100’s

    I bought a new one in 2004 ( or was it 2005? o_O)

    it was without doubt the worst air rifle I have ever owned

    horrible finish, clunky, looked like the YTS kid had designed it on a Friday afternoon..

    terrible accuracy and generally a pig

    I kept it a week and sold it on. At a loss.

    this tainted my opinion of HW100’s...

    so... are the later incarnations an improvement on the mid-2000’s thing?

    I see regular posts of folk dribbling over their HW100’s and for the life of me can’t understand WHY??

    I know other manufacturers have had bad periods in their productions over the years, was it the same for the HW’s ?

    not looking for a ‘my dick is bigger’ thread...

    Genuinely interested if later HW100’s are actually worth a second look. :thumb:
     
  2. Figgy

    Figgy Engaging Member

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    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The new ones are accurate so long as it's not got a barrel from the bad batch they had a few years ago.
    If you don't like the look no point going further.
    I have to like the look of a gun, it could be laser accurate and never go wrong but if I don't like how it looks it's a no go.
     
  3. Wing Commander

    Wing Commander Busy Member

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    First impressions last. . . and if you had an encounter with a HW1OO which was disappointing, it is understandable that there will be an enormous reluctance to buy another one.

    I cannot comment on the earlier ones -- I haven't seen/used one -- but my 3-year-old HW100 (.177) would seem to be the complete opposite of your own findings. . It has a nice finish, is silky smooth to operate, is reliable, consistent and deadly accurate.
    The "looks" of the thing are very personal, but I actually like the look of my one (full length with the walnut Sporter stock).

    Would I buy another one? Ohhhhh, yes. But the next one would have a thumb-hole stock. :)

    Before risking a chunk of money on another HW1OO, maybe someone (at a gun club?) would let you try their one for a session. . ?
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  4. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    How very dare you, someone is on the naughty list & won't get anything.

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  5. EastmidsHD

    EastmidsHD Keep pullin' that trigger..

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    I bought a brand new full length laminate adjustable a couple of years ago and for the first week it was laser beam accurate and then it went to s**t.

    I started a thread on here with my tales of woe. After that I said I'd never buy another one.

    Well, on Sunday that all changed and another one is now in my cabinet :D
     
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    trumpetier Big Poster

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    I had a full length Sporter stocked one about 6 months ago in .22. I think it was about 5 years old, my God it was accurate. If it had been the Carbine, I would of kept it. I was on the look out for a carbine, just the other week, but at the moment, I have just to many guns. So yes, in my experience there great and I would/will have another.

    It will be the ks, as I think the fister stocks are hideous.
     
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    Regal Man Keyboard Hero

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    I bought a brand new one, three years ago.
    Had no issues, whatsoever , so far. I'd say yes, they are worth a second look. I understand once bitten twice , shy.
     
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    Seamaster Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    They have had some subtle improvements over the years Lev, Weihrauch tend not to make a song and dance about these things, but they were pretty solid right from the off. It seems you just got a poor one. If they were like the one you had they wouldn’t have sold in the massive numbers that they have. They’re not range queens but they do the job better than anything else I’ve tried.
    I hope that wasn’t too dribbly. :D
     
  9. telephonepete

    telephonepete Donator

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    I,ve had 3 in the last few years. My first two were so accurate that it got boring and i sold them and went springer only. As i parted with the full length I got a pang of regret and thought will I regret this? But i didnt, out of sight etc. I threw myself into the world of springers with great gusto and am as much in love with them today as ever. However a guy came to the club a couple of months ago with a 100 and for "Old Times" sake he let me put 14 shots through it and i felt the love return. I now have this in my gun cabinet. Personaly i think it a very handsome gun. I still shoot my springers more but when my confidence needs a boost I get it out and 14 shots later I feel much better. This is standing next to it. So much for the Springer only. Give them another try Lev. You were very unlucky. upload_2019-12-3_6-45-49.jpeg upload_2019-12-3_6-42-40.jpeg
     
  10. 32:1

    32:1 Theoben user

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    Much the same Lev, I avoided them for years but have just bought a used one cheap for ratting duties and Im already thinking it was a mistake, but its booked in with a local guy that works wonders with them so Im hoping I can feel the love all these hw100 say they feel once you get a good one


    Chris
     
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    Shotaholic Engaging Member

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    As you probably already know Lev I've got two, one HW100T in walnut and one HW100KT in laminate. I'd be the first to admit if I had been buying them on looks alone they would have stayed on the shelf. I'm not particularly a fan of the stocks on the HW100, but as far as I'm concerned if you want a regulated rifle that's just about the best there is at the price it's got to be the HW100's. The action is smooth and reliable and I never even think about the magazines and indexing systems - it just works perfectly every time all the time. Add to that the no double loading feature and what's not to like. Mine are working guns and one or the other get used just about every day of the week and neither has ever let me down - even though they've been dropped, knocked and generally treated with the abuse that's difficult to avoid on a farm. As Seamaster says it would seem you just got a poor one. Worth another look maybe?
     
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    Have a look at a HW100BP and face both of your fears :D:p
     
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    I have two and they are both accurate. i think there were more problem childs out there than we think, but for some reason they maybe don't get as bad a publicity as say DS or FX.

    I know a few other owners of 100's and none of them have complained about accuracy....until @32:1 got his ratter :D
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Had a mk 1, only problem was you had to remove the air tube to fill it (one of the reasons A&M started making cylinders for them), being used to a SuperTen there was no problem.

    Had several, all reliable, accurate and soulless....
     
  15. Reevo17

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    I bought a new laminate this summer

    At 20 yards it wouldn’t group, went back to countryways who tried and agreed and kindly refunded me

    Never again
     
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    Very Unlucky Matt. Mine is like a laser. Better than the s400 and i,ve had 3 of them and love them.
     
  17. cloverleaf

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    Design-wise early ones were inferior in a number of ways - no QF on the cylinder, reg piston running directly in the block (so if the bore got scratched it was a write-off), removable cylinder screwing directly into ally block with a relatively fine / damage-prone thread, crap slip-on mod, even worse ergonomics on the cricket-bat stock..

    Later ones improved relative to the above issues but not in the areas you describe (although to be fair I've never known them to be poorly finished, other than inside the bore!). Tbh the one I bought was one of my most disappointing purchases - poor barrel quality, lots of fouling, variable and mediocre accuracy, horrible stock ergonomics..

    While they certainly have their good points (easy to work on, excellent triggers, good mod as standard, decent mag setup) IMO in use the ones I've experienced fall well short of all the hype and are afflicted by a serious barrel quality issues that HW is evidently unwilling to address.

    I was very, very happy to see the back of mine and would never entertain the idea of another.
     
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  18. Reevo17

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    I think if I go back into pcp land (doubt it) only an s200 or s400 would sway me
     
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    OK Ill swap you this for one of yours :thumb:
     
  20. Tim_B

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    Errr...the one with the titanium cylinder and spalted stock....or the green buddy bottle conversion? Let me think about that....just for a second......Its a right handed stock you have, unfortunately I shoot from the proper side :rofl:
     

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