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Weihrauch hw35 to restore

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by DaystateNovice, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. DaystateNovice

    DaystateNovice Well-Known Member

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    I've got hold of a beautiful hw35 that's seen better days and I'm wanting to bring it back to its former glory. But the problem is, I've never done anything like it before so I'm trying to read up as much as possible first and see what others think about it before I dive in.
    So I'm after some advice on how I should do it really, I'm not going to be reblueing it myself, I'll leave that to someone capable but I'd like to try most other things myself.
    Any advice would be hugely appreciated.
    Here's a few pictures of it, I believe its a 1976 hw35 but could be mistaken.
     
  2. Barni

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    Go on give it a go :)
    Just read up first then ask a few questions a couple of days before you re blue it just to make sure. If it goes a bit pete tong its just rub it down and try again i guess

    im sure you will be ok :up:
     
  3. 18 Wheeler

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    Yep, 1976 according to Mick's master list (T20).

    HW35 Export, looks to all be there except the rearsight, which can be got fairly easily. 22" barrel in the correct calibre! cap on the pistol grip, sling swivels, single-sided safety are all original.

    It will have a leather piston seal, I'd try and keep that as they can be less pleasant to shoot if converted to a modern synthetic seal.

    Is it shootable? If so try to chronograph it (there may be a kindly member near to you if you don't have one) it serves as a useful health check and reference point for any future work.

    You'll need to disassemble it to check the internals, they are one of the simpler rifles to work on IMO. Other than some good quality screwdrivers which fit (more correctly turn screws) the only tools required are a couple of Drifts, used to remove pins without damaging them. At a push you can make some by cutting and deburring nails of the correct size.

    The existing spring may be serviceable, if not I'll dig out my "recipe for a sweet shooting 35" with a spring recommendation. Allied to a tuning kit from TBT you should be able to do it without any great expenditure.




    The one potential big issue is that of the Porous Breech, fixable but it is essential to deal with this before doing anything else. Mick, T20, has written some excellent pieces on this, here's a really good thread.


    That's enough for now, I need my beauty sleep! Doubtless you'll get plenty of helpful info from the forum, keep us updated please.
     
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    engraver Keyboard Hero

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    Firstly it needs stripping to the core, as it wants rebluing.

    Read up first as you may well need to build a spring compresser so the end block doesn't hurt you as it flies out, #

    A G clamp cut in half a screwed to a bench is all I used and two hooks placed near a wall so I just sit the action against the g clamp and wind the spring preload out carefully backwards, may be a two man job as they can buckle sometimes depending on the pre load on the spring.

    Your gun may well be a leather piston seal which are like rocking horse poo to find, so you may have salvage that depending on its condition.


    Anyhow once you have the bare chassis send it to colin malloy in Manchester he will send it back like new, just be carefull when you rebuild it not to scratch it, it may be best taping it up to rebuild it.


    You have to decide on weather you want to convert it to a synthetic piston seal which I would not personally, I sold a hw35 not long ago with lovely original finish and internals and it was such a nice shooter, smooth and no vibe at all, plus doing 11.6 ft/ibs, if you can achieve that you have done well as it was the best hw35 Ive ever shot by far.
     
  5. DaystateNovice

    DaystateNovice Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all the advice! I'm going to try and get it all stripped down this weekend and start with sanding the stock first to get rid of the scratched areas. Whilst doing that I'll have a look at the internals. I know it's got a newish breech seal but hoping the piston seal is still original. Thanks again for all the help, ill try keep this thread updated as work starts on the rifle.
     
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    The 35 is my favourite of all the Weihrauch range :up:


    Good luck with the resto ;)


    John :)
     
  7. D R Hughes

    D R Hughes Newbie

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    Spring Compressers

    If it's any use to anyone, you can make these from sash clams which are for repairing windows and chairs by holding parts together whilst glue sets. Buy the sash clams and a G clamp made by the same firm and you can swop the longer screw from the g clamp into the sash clamps. You'll need to do a little work with a hacksaw, perhaps. Once I'd made mine I put a ball race on the end to go up against the trigger blocks and so on.

    Regards, David
     
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    I've sent a message requesting the links be removed to a forum moderator.

    I have a paper copy of your HW35 Handbook, purchased IIRC along with a number of articles from yourself at the airgun fayre when it was held in Solihull following your "loft clear out".

    Good luck with your quest and I hope you shoot your rather nice HW55T on occassion.

    ATB, Nick
     
  9. Patrick

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    You can strip an HW35 down without a spring compressor as there's not that much preload on the spring,assuming it's a standard spring,I've done it myself a few times and reassembled it without one and I'm no Charles Atlas.I put the trigger block against the floor on something to stop it getting marked holding it between my feet and grasping the cylinder to unscrew it applying some downward pressure when you get to the last couple of thre to stop it flying apart.
     
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  10. DaystateNovice

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    Still not been able to start work on this little rifle yet, but I really want to do it all right so if I need to wait till I've got time then needs must.

    I've done a fair bit of research on what to do and how to do it, and its honestly not looking too scary. I just know I'll be swearing at myself once I start to sand the stock and know I've got hours of sanding ahead of me.

    I'm gunna get it reblued properly. I really wouldn't want to mess it up.

    A quick question though:
    Is standard the only way to go aesthetically or are slight touches generally ok to do (eg, engraved trigger guard ect)
    Just a thought, and I know its going to be mainly a "its your choice" but would love to hear opinions :)
     
  11. 1961nuffield

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    If you need a leather piston seal for this, I have one in the garage somewhere you can have.

    John
     
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    Hi,

    Thanks for the help over the copies, I have no end of trouble with them.

    I sold the HW 55 T a while after the fair mostly because It's getting hard to shoot these days, I had an op on my right hand and the scar is in just the wrong place to be accurate enough.

    Good luck with the HW35 job, they are nice, easy rifles to work on and easy to understand, unlike some.

    Regards, David
     
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    a very nice project to be starting on and a nice example of a HW35 export,they are an easy rifle to work on so much so you will find them arriving at your door often as many members on here will agree with,if possible keep it original I have a hw35 in .22 from 1974 retained the leather washer was lucky enough to be able to obtain a new piston and washer rebuit with a genuine Weihrauch spring with very little preload all I do is have a couple of carpet tiles cut and placed over a hole on my workmate so as not to mark the barrel and just my weight find it ample to be able to start screwing the the back block up,they don,t need power to be a lovely rifle to shoot at about just under11 ft/lbs,have had one at 17.4ft/lbs but thats another story:eek:
     
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    Will watch this thread with interest

    Whats the going price for one of these classics in good condition?

    Cheers

    Gaz
     
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    Regards the HW35 leather piston washer, iirc, and it's a long time ago since I saw one, the washer was about 9 - 12.5 mm thick. I seem to recall it being made up of a few layers of leather circles suitably tapered? At least this is what I recall .

    Point being it doesn't seem complicated to make your own to avoid the issues with a synthetic washer.
     
  16. DaystateNovice

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    Still no work started on this :( been stupidly busy at work and brothers birthday this week so had no time to really start with anything. It's just Sat there waiting to be restored.
    Think I'll have to start the sanding on Wednesday (first day off for about 2-3 weeks) and go from there.

    Cheers for the offer John, might take you up on it if I find its missing :)
    I promise I'll start soon; it's not going to be another dead thread!
     

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