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Question Webley Osprey?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Sharpghost64, Jan 12, 2020.

  1. Sharpghost64

    Sharpghost64 Active Member

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    Hi guys. Thought I'd pick a few brains. Have been looking through ads and have noticed a few very nice ospreys for sale. I would like to know how accurate they are. Not too worried about outright power just to use at club for 25 metres and plinking. I just fancy something different and classic. Thanks for any views.
     
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    They are as accurate as you can shoot it...the trigger's are basic...no powerhouse...the side lever isn't to every bodies appeal...well built though ...they did a "supertarget" with match sights which might suit you better but difficult to find...have fun.:thumb:
     
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    Have had 2, don’t think I would have shot further than 15yds with either.
     
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    If you want a Webley classic,I would go back a few years and have a Webley mark 3,the last ones on sale were in 1975,when the Osprey started.The Mark 3 is really a better gun,though some dont like the style.A nice original one is around £200-£300,when sold Webley claimed an accuracy of one and a half inch groups at 40 yards,and about 9 ft lbs.
     
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    They were Webley's first foray into side levers(iirc).Triggers were basic and the sights were plastic not that it meant they were bad/nasty. They were a well finished gun but power wasn't their selling point I believe the .177 put out about 650 fps and about 500 fps in .22 and remember that was with pellets that were lighter in those days.Providing the gun was in good condition and working properly,that's what Webley claimed anyway
    They also used a synthetic piston ring(s) in stead of a piston seal so if it's got the original one(s) they will almost certainly be worn and you may have difficulty in finding replacements so worth checking that first. You also need to check that the loading tap has no major leak too.
    They also never had a spring guide fitted as standard which meant springs were prone to buckling.
    Scope creep could be a slight issue too as there was no provision to use an arrestor pin unless you drilled a hole in the top of the cylinder/receiver and because the firing cycle was a little harsh because by using piston ring(s) there wasn't the cushioning affect that a piston seal provides when the piston comes to rest at the end of its stroke.
    The Viscount which was its successor was a better gun.
     
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    Enterpr123 Engaging Member

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    I have a Mk3, its not recommended to mount a scope as the rail may come adrift I shoot that at 15 yds max over open sights.
     
  7. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    It's the tap loading that affects accuracy as the pellet has to jump out of it & into the rifling, get one as they're a nice handling gun but don't expect miracles
     
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    Thanks very much guys for feedback. What classics would you suggest?
     
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    Wobbley service is a good bet or FWB 124/7, anything BSF if you can find one. Annie 335S is a real gem but rarer than an honest politician.
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    The rail on these was not really scope friendly - the Parker-Hale aperture sight was more suitable, and the MK3 "Supertarget" model came with this included in the package.
     
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    Loved my Webley Vulcan MK2, bit of a hone and polish and polish the Sears and it shot lots smoother.
    Trying to think what the next model up I coveted was, maybe the Tracker. Mates brother had the Osprey I found it heavy compared and a pain to carry.
    Try one of you like them.
     
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    couple of rifles I coveted where The Original 50T01 and the BSA Centenary
    50t01.jpg bsa.jpg
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    If you want a usable, accurate classic then the Original 50 has to be in the top three.
    The one to have is an early one with the schnabel tipped forend not the angled one like a mki HW80.
    Theyre not built for 12fpe, more 6-8 but that's not the point if them, really nice mauser'esque looking rifle.
     
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    I know my Webley Vulcan took many rabbits pigeons and a fair few pheasants in the late 80's.
    Touted as a full power airgun,was much better after being played with and a better spring and lubes.
    I'd probably hate it today as things move on.
     
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    Nice rifles. Will definitely be looking at these thanks
     
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    rabbitwrecker The Tree Hunter...

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    The Osprey is a good solid rifle, but don't expect match accuracy. Remember that the .22 will be be 5.6mm - not 5.5mm - so finding a suitable pellet might take a while...
     
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    I have the later iteration that is the Tracker - after years of being put off by tales of how crap they were and how much better the German rifles were, I finally got myself one and the only thing I regret is not buying one years ago.
    Even the 'basic' trigger is nowhere near as bad some others will have you believe (mine is actually pretty good) and although its true they are no powerhouses at about 10 ft/lbs for 25-30 yd work you really don't need anymore.
    Accuracy wise mine is no better or worse than the German rifles I have, provided I stick to about 25-30 yds, after that the 5.5mm barrel working with modern 5.5 pellets has the advantage - .177 ones may be better, but tend to be lower powered I believe.
    For .22 I'd suggest starting with RWS Superdome as they work very well.
    John Knibbs has the piston rings for the Osprey in stock if needed and modern spring guides will be an easy upgrade should you need them, but Webley's floating guide also works extremely well (loads of people erroneously think theirs is broken!);)
    If you can find an Osprey at a good price - I'd say go for it!!!
     
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    If you want an underlever probably the Original Model 50 is a good choice. The only downside is if you get one and decide to strip it the ball bearing trigger mechanism can be a bit difficult to get back in and working properly on re-assembly.Also the scope rail which was spot welded to the cylinder sometimes came adrift if a heavy/large scope was used. The rail was only really intended for diopter/peep sight or small scope.
    The FWB 124/127 Sport is a nice gun if you can find one in good order i.e complete and not with the sights missing as it's nigh on impossible to find replacements and if you want to overhaul the gun should it be needed you will need some form of spring compressor such as a sash cramp as the spring in those guns is under a lot of preload and check the lockup detent isn't worn.
    BSF Air Rifles are quite straight forward but i believe the spring in them is under quite a bit of preload so again a spring compressor of some sort may or will be needed.
    Anschutz 335 is decent gun but check the stock mounting bracket as it was not unknown for it to come away from the cylinder due to the fact that it was only spot welded.
    If you like the idea of a Webley and a fixed barrel gun,in this case a sidelever the Viscount is a better proposition
    Which ever gun you decide if it needs work doing to it which could involve replacement parts check that they are availble first as spares for some of these guns are becoming increasingly hard to find unless it's something simple that you can knock up yourself.
    With any fixed barrel tap loading rifle when loading a pellet use a matchstick or something similar to push it to the bottom of the tap as i found it slightly improved the guns consistency rather than just drop it in.
     
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    I had two trackers years ago and loved them.

    As for 5.5mm pellets in a 5.6mm barrel my Supersport is fine with RWS Superdomes and possibly better with RWS Superfields
     
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