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Webley Mk6 Wobble.

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by Troy T., Jun 25, 2020.

  1. Troy T.

    Troy T. Aquanaut

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    Something that has bothered me since I had the pistol. My pellet firing Webley MK6 has always had a degree of wobble/looseness in the barrel/frame hinge. Now undoubtedly shooting tin cans at 10 yards this probably was neither here or there. But it has always been in my mind as it has never shot brilliant groups on paper. So, I have made 2 shims from film negative which has removed all the play. Will give it go this weekend. Any one else done the same, if so any difference?
     
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    Wild Bill co2 Firearm Enthusiast & FX Wildcat owner.

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    It's quite well known if you check the play with it open or without the shells. But when closed and loaded the free play vanishes on mine.
     
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    As WB has said its common and there are previous posts on here about it. It’s only in the unloaded condition and when the shells are in place it’s solid.

     
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    Troy T. Aquanaut

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    Must disagree, open or closed the play was still there. I can understand the thinking behind this because when closed the spring loaded barrel bushing will spring into mouth of cylinder and lock it into place. Well this was not so on mine. Maybe I was worried over nothing, as I said if it hits a 10 yard can so what .
     
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    I think most of the reduction in movement comes from the shells running on a ramp which pushes the cylinder forward. Indeed, the alignment of the chamber to the barrel is effected by the two locking together. Feeling for rotational movement of the cylinder when loaded on my revolvers shows that the lock works well, only limited by the sideways slop of the barrel, the loose hinge pin of my Schofield doesn't show once the latch is closed. I wonder whether anyone has tried "gliding" the barrel end fitting?

    Rob.
     
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    Wild Bill co2 Firearm Enthusiast & FX Wildcat owner.

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    For what we use the non accurate co2 low powered firearms on, ie 6-10yds targets and plinking, I feel they are good enough. The only barrels I have had to shim were on my Colt SAA's. My Webley mk6 and my Schofields are very accurate for plinking.
     
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    Headhunter Is fed up with waiting for a Chiappa Rhino

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    I had to make shims for my secondhand Webley mkVI, open or closed (with or without shells fitted) there was far too much play in the hinge. Since making and fitting mine the play has completely gone and it shoots consistently on target with much smaller groups, well worth the time and trouble.
    I used some polyethylene to make mine out of, I didn't want to use anything harder as I was worried that it would create even more play in the long run, I'd rather replace shims than a gun but they have withstood the test of time, I just greased them when I fitted them into the hinge.

    Webley hinge 2.jpg Webley hinge 3.jpg
     
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    Yep. Same with mine. Plastic shim from a spray can lid and it's now tight and shoots inside an inch at 6yds (BB)
     
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    Absolutely agree, none of what is being discussed detracts in any way from the fun to be had shooting these replicas. In my case though it makes two hobbies - the first is shooting them and the second is understanding them. There are a lot of air rifle tinkerers who have developed methods to improve already good rifles, let alone less prestigious offerings, and some of these may be transferable to our pistols. I'm am amazed at how well these guns function with many conventional design concepts replaced with new methods. It is unlikely to do any harm to try to make improvements - though not cost effective. If I still had access to engineering facilities, I'd even risk my own cash just for fun.

    Rob.
     
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    I just wish I had the aptitude to be able to do a lot of the mods some of our esteemed members carry out. In 1964 my woodwork teacher said I’d never make a joiner, well I’ll never be a gunsmith either. Changing screws taxes my ability.
     
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