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Webley mk3 date and general help?

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by Woodside, Feb 6, 2014.

  1. Woodside

    Woodside Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys I was given this rifle today from a guy I am working for its been in his loft for ages?
    he is 71 and thinks he had it as a teenager but cannot quite remember?
    its a mk 3 .22

    first thing it's a bit rusty but generally ok.

    its missing the loading tap lever for the pellet ... so if anyone has one kicking around they don't want pm me please

    and also where is the serial number so I can date this old thing..

    just a little project.... I think it has a nice look to it!
     

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  2. OLD GIT61

    OLD GIT61 if no spring it wont do a thing

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    info on your gun Woodside , it is a mk3. And its also a type early model 1 as for the year i would not know that .But some one will soon jump in and tell you soon.Also you can get a tap frpm Airgunspares if you google it you will find it.
     
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    Hi mate...sorry I can't be of much help, BUT - the Mk3 was in production between 1946 & 1975... Thats it I'm afraid as I know no more about the old Webley air rifle. If you Google 'Webley' then you might find bits 'n pieces which might help you out. I do know that Webley (as a company) can't supply you with production date info. Apparently it was all lost during the companys recent 'traumatic past'.
    Someone WILL know this info so don't give up yet!
     
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    Everyone loves pictures so here's a few more.....

    you can probably see a few of the other nuts/ bolts that are missing...and the general poor condition?

    Also might give you some more clues to dating....

    and thanks guys for the quick responses...as always any info is helpfull

    it looks extremely similar to the one pellet177 is asking info for at the moment.....it seems these are like buses ........ it would appear.
     

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    hi woodside I am asking for a valuation on my webley mk111 if you look in my albums you will see it the serial number is under the cocking arm when pulled down mine is 1955 to 1956 no17944 this might give you some info check it and see if your number is near to mine
     
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    Ill have a look beneath the rust
     
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    If its the number on the cocking arm it is indeed pretty close

    18564
     
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    yes that's right mate looks as if yours could be same era as mine hope your refurb goes well it will be worth it. I am lucky just had mine handed down from my dad never been touched fires great and its as old as me
     
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    Had a look at mine today and the number on the top of the cocking arm is 6654.. ? I take it that makes it a fairly early model..
     
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    Certainly seems an early number...
    Does anyone know roughly how many of these webley made???
     
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    I had a bit of time this morning so I pulled the webley apart and gave it a light clean up....I managed to find some pretty similar bolts for the front mounts too...

    and just some more information the stock has the same serial number stamped on the inside.....I'm please eto say it is the same as the barrel etc?

    after a light oiling and rub down with scotch brite pads it looks 10 times better even presentable ...
    so this is how it will stay u till I source a loading tap lever...
     

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    Looks a different gun already Woodside........:up:
     
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    The rifles mentioned up to now are Third Series. "Thrale's book" 6001 was the first of the third series using the single stage trigger recognisable by pronounced curvature of the trigger (two stage before)
    Numbers in the high 13K are known to be 1952. Stamping the stock finished around 1959 with numbers 30k +
    The loading tap lever ideally should have fine serrated top face. Love 'em.
     
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    Right then
    i thinki have the coorect lever ...from protek supplies.....and I must say It was very reasonable..
    luckily it's a bit shabby too so suits the rifle just fine?

    but now upon fitting and closer inspection it looks as if in the absence of the lever some muppet has been using pliers or worse to open the loading tap....so unless I can now source a new loading tap in .22 I need to sort this...

    what i need to know if someone could please check on their gun....

    When the lever is in the fully open position ready to accept the pellet (as in one of the pictures) is the lever at full open against the stop or do you need to wiggle the lever a bit to allow the pellet to fall in?...

    i ask because repairing the rounded stub is definately possible but the correct lining of the lever on said stub could cause a problem not letting the pellet exit smoothly ....

    or is there an easy way of lining up the chambers

    thanks again in advance
     

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    hi woodside on mine when cocking the rifle the loading lever opens I think this is down to compression on the spring it opens fully and you just drop the pellet in and close chamber and fire hope this helps
     
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    Hi Cheers for that
    I don't think it's an auto open unless something else is missing ....perhaps it is but I'm pretty certain it's manual

    I have an mk1 airsporter that opens automatically and I love that so perhaps I will look closer..


    So now can anyone tell me what the difference between the two models are. ( manual / auto loading taps)
     
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    Ok before someone says it
    i know one opens automatically when you cock the rifle
    and the other you need to open manually ???
     
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    Just been looking on line

    did webley make a mk3 with auto open like the early airsporters?..
     
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    I also had airsporter mk1 on the webley mk111 I was told that some times if the rifle was often fired empty this could affect the auto mechanism and stop it working don't know for sure if this is correct thou
     

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