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Webley Excel, loose barrel

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by axel, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. axel

    axel Member

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    Hello!

    I have been spendning much time trying to find out why my Webley Excel doesnt group the shots well and just found out that it depends on weather i hold the barrel or not. If i hold the barrel and press it to the left shots are grouped very nicely, but if i dont hold the barrel at all half of the shots ends up on the upper right. When i feel the barrel it is a little bit loose(not much though)

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    These were shot on 10yards with support, holding the barrel and pressing it to the left gave good results, when not holding the barrel the shots sometimes ended upp in the middle and sometimes on the upper right.

    Is there anything i can do to fix my loose barrel?
     
  2. thisisdonald

    thisisdonald Engaging Member

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    Barrel off.. barrel jaws into the vice..tighten.. repeat until satisfactory! Simples!
     
  3. JD

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    Sounds like your breech jaws have worn abit and there some play between the breech jaws,

    your barrels not loose is it ? check just to make sure.

    I would not vice the jaws, that is to extreme,

    You need to carefully bring the jaws together, to stop the free play between them and the breech block.
     
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    I managed to tighten the jaws in a vice and the fit is not nice and tight without any wobbeling. The rifle still spread the shots, the left is taken on 10yards with support and the right one is taken on 20yards with suppert, some of the shots completely missed the goal.

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  5. JD

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    Is there any damage at the muzzle ?
     
  6. axel

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    The mussle looks good, and the velocity is stable at 590fps.

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    Is it possible that my expectations of the Excel are simply too high when i want to hit a target 15x15cm at 20yards?
     
  8. JD

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    I wish you had not jumped in with the vice treatment to the breech jaws.

    It could be the barrel/breech pivot retaining bar has worn, or another part in this area ?
     
  9. valboskie

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    The webley excel is a great we rifle and more than capable of grouping nicely to 30 yards.
    This was my first rifle 26 years ago I only sold it 18 months ago.
    You are not expecting to much from it at 20 yards.

    I have hope you get it sorted and get to enjoy your excel.
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