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Wanted: Early (Mk1) Weihrauch HW77

Discussion in 'Sales Graveyard' started by Trebz, Apr 8, 2008.

  1. Trebz

    Trebz Active Member

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    Hi

    I need a few parts for my early HW77. I have had a chat with Steve @ V-Mach and he tells me that my rifle, Serial No: 1030427, 25mm Piston Seal, was made in the first year of production so it's an old one.

    Anyone have an old one lurking in a cupboard i can have for spares?

    Thanks

    Trebz
     
  2. EX Mod Cog

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    The HW77 is no gun for a cupboard :D

    It's always worth trying here, www.gunspares.co.uk, as they have many spares in stock.

    If you can't find what you're looking for on that website, then the best of luck :up:
     
  3. Trebz

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    Thanks........

    I tried www.gunspares.co.uk,, called them and the chap explained that they only have spares for the later models as per the exploded drawing / parts list for the HW77. The exploded drawing shows that the screw i need (C1050) is only available for the 'Mk2'.

    Part list here:

    http://www.gunspares.co.uk/showcatimage.asp?id=24571

    Hence my asking for a 2nd hand one.

    Hopefully someone somewhere will have a screw i can pilfer hehe.

    Thanks all the same x

    Trebz
     
  4. Trebz

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    Oohhhh.... cmon ladies and gentlemen......someone must have an 'ole busted HW77 sat in a cupboard !!! Hehe

    I only need the screw that retains the thumb latch but a complete rifle would be good.

    Im really struggling on this one. I cant seem to get the screw from anyone, i even contacted Hans in Germany direct. Even Weihrauch cant help me !!

    'A Screw, a screw....my kingdom for a screw' !!!

    :)
     
  5. Andy

    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    Have you tried John knibbs international on 01675 481006

    They used to claim (If it's not available we'll make it)

    They have a website but it's not complete or working yet.

    http://airgunspares.com
     
  6. Trebz

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    Hi Andy

    Thanks for the info, i called and had a chat with John himself, he tells me that he holds spares for rifles dating back to the early 1900's (if i remember correctly).

    He spent a good 10 minutes on the phone with me whilst checking his parts box for the screw i need. He mentioned that he normally has the complete latch mech in stock but he couldnt find it at the time, he took my number and will have another look in the morning.

    I also learnt that the HW77 was first manufactured in the early 1970's. As my rifle was manufactured in the 1st year of the HW77 im guessing that it's in it's mid 30's now, almost as old as i am !

    Can anyone else provide info on the HW77 as im trying to build up a history for my rifle.

    Thanks

    :)
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2008
  7. Trebz

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    Hi All

    John's not been in touch, im shelving the HW77 and looking to buy myself an Air Arms S410.

    Shame.

    Thanks for the help though guys.

    Trebz
     
  8. sharpshooterpete

    sharpshooterpete Donator

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    keep looking mate, im sure something will come up.
     
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    Nice link Andy, you just never know when i might need something.:up:
     
  10. Pudding

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    Not sure what you are after - is it C1050 you actually need or a version for the HW77 you have, which is/may be different?
    I ask because if you can make a sketch of it, I may be able to get one made for you...

    Cheers

    Harry
     
  11. Trebz

    Trebz Active Member

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    Update and info.

    Puddin:

    The part i need is the retaining screw for the thumb latch which locks the underlever into place. The original thumb latch screw has been replaced prior to my owning the rifle with a simple machine screw. This becomes a problem when out in the field as after half an hours use or so the screw becomes loose. I have on several occasions had to ruin a night shoot by switching on my lamp and ferreting around in the dirt trying to find the screw and thumb latch due to it falling off the rifle.

    After querying the part i need with Hans Weirauch it seems that Weirauch do not actually produce the rifle in 'MK's', they do however from time to time make slight modifications to the old model. Maybe the market needs to have a name for these changes and finds it simpler to apply the term 'MK1, MK3' and so on.

    As i have shown above in this post my findings so far have led me to believe that this rifle was manufactured in the first year of production for the HW77, 'early 70's' is the closest i have got. It would be nice to know a little more about it though.

    I have gained access to several exploded drawings and they do show the thumb latch screw as beign part number 'C1050', however it states quite clearly on the drawings that this part number os for the 'MK2', which i now know does not actually exist.

    I guess the real question at this point is: Does the 'MK2' thumb latch screw in the exploded drawing fit the 'Early 70's' HW77 i have?

    Have a look at this link from Gunspares, they dont have the screw in stock:

    http://www.gunspares.co.uk/showcatimage.asp?id=24571

    One could argue that i could easily apply some liquid thread lock to the after market machine screw, im not able to do that for two reasons:

    1. Im a purist and would like to use an original part if possible.
    2. Im an awkward old bu**er.

    Any help with this would be greatly appreciated, there may even be a pint in it for someone that can help.

    Thanks

    Trebz
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2008
  12. sumo

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    Think I might have the latch screw you need on an old beat up 77.
    I ll have a look in the morning ok.

    cheers.

    sumo.
     
  13. Trebz

    Trebz Active Member

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    Fantastic !!!

    Sumo

    You have a PM.

    Many thanks for the offer of help.

    To all: Sumo has found me a suitable screw and has offered to post it to me.

    What a gent !!

    Thanks....

    Trebz
     
  14. Trebz

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    Hi all

    Airgunforum has sent me the screw, along with an allan key and the thumb latch !!

    This chap is a credit to the Airgun world in my opinion, very helpful indeed.

    I'll be fitting the screw to the rifle tonight YAAAAY !!!

    Again, thanks all.

    Trebz
     
  15. sumo

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    Just glad to help mate,maybe I will get a comfy seat in hell as a thanks eh!.
    Take care
    Ian.;)
     
  16. Borja1979

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    hi mate try in CH weston in brigthon
    http://www.chweston.co.uk/acatalog/Falcon_Pneumatic.html
    they service and repair at really afordable prices and they manage to fix my old hw77 trigger mechanism they have a good spare range! and reliable.
    despite the owner looks like 5 ft tall hench-warrior is a nice fella, he knows what he talks, or is the impresion that i get. hope u will be ok with them.
    ok nevermind... i didnt read the whole think!!! u fixed it already!!! muahhaha well ldone with airgunnys like u guys is a pleasure be involve in this sport!
     
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