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vortex diamondback and nikon prostaff reticle for hft

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by valboskie, Mar 4, 2014.

  1. valboskie

    valboskie Busy Member

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    Hi lads has anyone used one of these for hft nikon prostaff or vortex diamondback with the bdc reticle .
    I was on another forum reading that with the dots being just an outline like a bubble on the nikon you can use the top middle and bottom of the bubble Giving you 12 aim points .
    Has anyone done this
    .If you have could you give me an example of your range card so I can see what its like compared to a map6 ret or mildot ..

    Has anyone used the vortex diamondback it looks to have a lot less aim points but can it be made to work for hft
    Again if anyone uses one could I see what their range card looks like.
    I'm just trying to find a scope with better glass than hawke and mtc within in my budget of £200ish
    The nikon pro staff and vortex diamondback sound ideal but with only bdc rets im just not sure if they will work for hft*.
    Cheers
    David
     
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    Thank for the thread link it looks like a few people have cracked it with that reticle. I might try and find one second hand and try that to see if I can work out the aim points. If I can I will buy one for my other rifles.
    I always use chair gun so this will be the first time just shooting paper with no guide to go buy.
    I need to shoot on 9x or 10x with my eye sight my hw98 is doing 10.8fpe and scope centre to bore centre is 1.55 inch at the moment with my hawke panorama ao
    Cheers
    David
     
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    I have one and currently just getting used to it for HFT. Mixed results up to now with good and bad days but more likely this is not the scope. As already said in the other thread the circles offer multiple aim points but small kill zones can be seen through the circle providing they line up balistically.
    instead of chair gun use strelok which has the Nikon ballistic ret among others.
    the glass is superb and the best I have tried by far amongst hawkes, MTC's etc.
    i had a small loup for a while and I can't tell the difference.

    great value for money
     
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    If only Nikon would do prostaff with a half mil dot ret with airgun range paralax they would sell by the boat load
     
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    The Nikon is more suitable than the Diamondback,the Vortex hash marks are too far apart. The glass is superb, but the reticule is not really very beneficial even for hunting. I have contacted them to ask them if they would produce a similar style of reticule but spaced to suit air rifle velocities - the trouble is the air rifle market in the UK alone represents ony about 5% of scope sales - in the USA and the rest of the world they would then need ANOTHER air rifle reticule because the guns are not limited to the velocities that ours are. So, in effect, they would have to produce TWO air rifle reticules and the tooling for that would be more expensive than the total sales....work out the outcome result.
     
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    Whats wrong with your current Panorama?
    The fine 1/2 milldot reticle is great for HFT great aim points and more then fine enough for the reducers, zero at 28-30yards and with 10x mag i guess around 40yards your using 1/2 a MD then at 45 1 full MD.
    If its a very dull day or in the woods leave the blue IR turned on, although the glass isnt the best you still get a good field of view and a clear bright image.
     
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    I have the hawke panorama half mildot an sr6 and 2 airmax ev map6 and mtc viper
    I though they were all quite good till I went to a fun 40 target hft shoot out to 60 yards.
    I had the chance to look through some top end scopes leupold bushnell sightron lightstream march
    The glass was all superb very crisp and bright and all well outside what I can afford at the moment.
    Then I started reading the vortex diamondback glass out performed some of the top end scopes
    But the reticle was difficult to use at air rifle ranges I was then told the nikon was not far behind
    The diamondback.
    So I thought I would be getting a big step up in glass brighter sharper a lot better in low light.
    At a price I could afford.
    I have not looked through either yet im just going on what I have read.
    Atb
    David
     
  9. Accuspell

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    Absolutely spot on. I did the first Nikon Prostaff test for airguns back in one of the early issues of Airgun Shooter - they weren't known in the airgun circles then, but following my findings they became very popular and other people discovered the same as I did. That was the original Prostaff, then I did a follow up about 18 months later with the new,plastic turret caps version, new turrets, fast focus eyepiece, same lenses and BDC reticule.

    It is a superb scope, but if you want 30 different aim points each with a 10mm difference at 30 yards, then no. You will have to stick with your blue pine tree and spend more time looking at the reticule and counting branches than actually shooting. I can't believe how complicated some of these reticules are. That is great when you have all the time in the world, but in a time limited situation, the simpler the better. I would like to see HFT limited to 10 seconds MAXIMUM per shot.
     
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    I am currently using a Mamba, Connect and Panorama, and the Nikon has the best glass by far
     

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