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Vintage Competition

Discussion in 'Vintage collectable airguns' started by lertho009#, Jan 13, 2021 at 9:40 PM.

  1. lertho009#

    lertho009# Airgun enthusiast

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    Below is an original air rifle target issued by the Preparatory Schools air rifle association
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    This organisation came into play in July 1905 but in February 1906 amalgamated

    Below is the young team from Sutherland House Preparatory School (Nottingham) in 1909

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    after their fine performance in a P.S.R.A. competiton; the team scored 592 out of a possible 600.

    The boy front centre is holding a Lincoln Jeffries Patent air rifle, the boy on the left has a 1906 war office pattern miniature probably a .22 rimfire calibre & the boy at front right a Martini Cadet rifle either .22, .297/.230 or .310 calibre.

    At this time, young men were actively encouraged to partake in rifle shooting, also to join cadet groups or the Boys Brigade to engender what proved to be a very necessary military addition to their upbringing.

    One has to wonder where some Western European countries would be now in the event of a further major call to arms.

    I thought maybe we could do a vintage competition using this target


    Anyone welcome to join

    Pre war Airguns preferred
     
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    Nice post. What's the target dimensions please?
     
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    Good question :thumb:

    What would everyone prefer?

    Tbh im not sure what size they would’ve used back then

    Any ideas?
     
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    Nice idea...is the lad on the extreme right holding a Gem type air rifle..?
     
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    lertho009# Airgun enthusiast

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    Looks like it ey :thumb:
     
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    Mortimer Very Active

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    Off topic, but you can't wondering if any of those boys died in the two World Wars.
     
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    This information was gathered from rifleman.org.uk & states pictures was given with kind permission from the secretary of the P.S.R.A
     
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    Rat Man Comfortably Numb

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    Very interesting.
    I did a quick search and found this site, there may be useful information there about how competitions should be run.

    https://www.psra.info/
     
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    Mortimer Very Active

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    Sorry, but I don't understand your comment.
     
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    lertho009# Airgun enthusiast

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    It means I can post pictures
     
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    Geezer Keyboard Hero

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    Very nice. Agree on the rifles. Not sure what the far right one is. Gem?

    I guess if you can find the contemporary military 600 yard target dimensions, you can do some maths and scale down to give you the correct size.

    A quick search suggests that the 1932 600 yard target had an “aiming mark” (black bit) of 32” and an outer (ie 2 ring) of 72”. Those proportions at least look similar to the one posted. Maybe they were carried over? After all, both were meant for .303” Lee-Enfields.

    If so, and I utterly can’t do maths, especially in inches, but I think that suggests an outer scoring ring of about an inch and a quarter?
     
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    That surely doesn't mean my comment was invalid...:rolleyes:
     
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    Did I say it was invalid? :shrug: I just told you where I got info from :thumb:
     
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    lertho009# Airgun enthusiast

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    Some more photos from 1909/10
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    If only the post office would provide such a service nowadays?

    Oh well, at least they still post air pistols :D
     
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    Also I think the Airgunners back then would be more than happy for me or anyone else for that matter to add there influence, history & knowledge on what we know of today :thumb:
     
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    Out of interest...I see Sutherland House is still going...a lot of the Prep/Private schools of that time would have had a shooting gallery/indoor range....some still do...Repton School near where I used to live have still got one...a nearby village hall (Newton Solney)has still got one...they are mostly used for .22 target shooting but do rent them out for airgun shooters too...:up:

    PS Adam Peaty uses Reptons indoor swimming pool too...:)
     
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    I was thinking Britannia as some had that small forestock.
     
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    Good call...:up:
     
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    I think the idea of a vintage pre war competition is a fantastic idea!

    Shall we agree some basic but open rules and say monthly entries?

    My suggestions would be

    6-10yrd
    Pre war rifles
    5 shots unsupported
    Scoring on bell target like card

    And maybe a pistol class as above.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Further more I am happy to sort the relevant collation of entries etc.

    If others are happy I can write up the rules a little more and request a sticky, and source a target.

    Best

    Jack
     
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