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Vector Optics Mdl Wire Reticle?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by JBFUK, Aug 3, 2021.

  1. JBFUK

    JBFUK Well-Known Member

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    I'm looking for a scope to go on my new HW97K.

    General and occasional all-round use - garden plinking, pest control and the odd trip to the HFT range. I'd like something that allows me to reset the zero point on the turret knobs once I have setup my zero at the range. So I can make adjustments in the field but still always get back to my original zero point - pet hate that this isn't possible on ALL scopes.

    It looks like the ideal choice looks like it would be the Hawke Airmax 30 SF Compact 4-16x44 but I don't really like the price for the very occasional use I'll give it.

    A potential option looks like the Vector Optics Victoptics S4 4-16x44 at £129. I can live without the illuminated reticle for less than half of the price of the Airmax, but, I'm not sure about the reticle pattern. From the looks of it one marking on the reticle scale is equal to 2 mildots? It looks quite inferior to the AMX reticle on the Airmax which has 0.5 mildot markings.

    Any experience with this scope or suggestions for something else in the 4-16x range, reasonably priced with turrets that can be reset to zero after adjustment?

    Thanks.
     
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  2. Chouchin66

    Chouchin66 Top Poster

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    To answer your question, buy the scope, with the lowest mounting possible, this will alleviate " cant" & put your head where it needs to be...
    Behind the sights
    Contrary to popular belief, you don't. need a 44 - 56mm front end on your scope..
    Those who say you do, are full of Censored!
    A 3 x 9x 40 is all anyone needs...I cut matches in half @ 25 yards ...with factory opens...
    6x, Leupold ... 50 yards
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    [​IMG]
    This said, buy " good glass" no cheap Chi - com garbage, repeatability is King.....
     
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  3. Bunny-on-Bunny

    Bunny-on-Bunny Posting Addict

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    40mm objective is enough and as @Chouchin66 points out, closer to the bore line the better - for more even near / far hold-overs.
    Am learning a 30/30 ret 4x40 on my Cometa and it's only 'disadvantage' is it's not a mil-dot ret... and it's not sealed, else it could stay there.

    Edit (got distacted):
    I own a £180 scope that has 'target turrets' and star-wheel locks etc, they are useful once in a while but.... meh!
    Cheapened toys are just not the same as the 'real deal'.
     
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  4. papaver

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    Optisan is worth a look. EVE range has resettable turrets under the traditional screw caps. EVX has target turrets, resettable markings too. I have one of each and like both of them. The EVX 4 - 16 x 44 was my first Optisan, bought new for around 200 quid. I got the EVE 3 - 12 x 44 second hand but as new, in box for 125 quid on here. Well happy with that one. I don't have any Vector Optics but I just took a look at your link and it appears to be very similar to the equivalent Optisan EVX.

    @Chouchin66 is talking sense though about size of mag and objective but 44mm is only 4mm more than 40mm (I'm good at maths eh!) So not stupidly oversized but he is right really.
     
  5. Lostkiwi

    Lostkiwi Tomorrow will be a good day.

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    Discovery VT-2 3-12x44 would fit the bill for you
    £140 and has side focus, IR, resettable turrets and 1/2 mildot reticle.
    Being side focus the objective body diameter is the same a 40mm AO scope.
    RET-HMD-10x-1.jpg
    I use one on my 97 and it's perfect and doesn't overlap the loading port and on the supplied mounts the scope sits 2mm above the action.
    [ IMG_20210619_122229.jpg

    Go another £40 and you can get the VT3 version which is shorter and has a 30mm tube as well though for occasional use it may be overkill. Another £40 gets FFP as well.
     
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  6. Leon83

    Leon83 They all float down here. You'll float, too.

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    I agree with @Chouchin66 - I would choose Leupold 3-9x33 EFR more than enough for pest control and used in HFT by many.
     
  7. ScoopsUK

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    I too looked at the Airmax SF Compact - lovely item but just too expensive for me. Looking for something that would go on my TX200 without blocking the loading port was a consideration and I eventually found a factory reconditioned Airmax 4-12 AMX for around £110 with the lifetime warranty. It was as new and had been returned as the user had over wound the turrets. It doesn't have side focus or illumination but is very clear and has the AMX etched reticle still. More like a 'budget' version of the compact I suppose.

    Very happy with it though and although I think it has been discontinued now I have seen it around a few places for around £150 brand new. Might be worth keeping your eye out.. Here is a pic with the scope fitted leaving loads of room for pellet loading... The length is a few mils shorter than the Discovery...

     
  8. bflat7

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    The westhunter 4-16x44 that
    I have on my 97k and 57 has
    Everything!! That you,ve specified ,and it,s compact! Have a look on the web!
     
  9. Beetlecrusher

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    Just do what most people end up with, just ask NASA to borrow the Hubble telescope, strap it on with extra high mounts, struggle with it not parallaxing down to something useful and then stick it up for sale, as nearly new but just not me.

    not sure Hubble has resettable turrets
     
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  10. ScoopsUK

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    I haven't been around here long enough to know if it is a thing but I do have a 4 inch 'compact' reflector which you could use.. Great view if you don't mind adding a few kilos to the file. And shooting at the moon. 90 degrees to the gun... going cheap though...
     
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    Shooting at the moon needs nightvision, that requires additional equipment, now you need a Hollywood size spotlight preferably on a towable trailer for ease of use or picatinny mounts (optional) then some kind of shooting stick preferably carbon fibre, you don’t want a heavy rig :)
     
  12. Lostkiwi

    Lostkiwi Tomorrow will be a good day.

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    On cue:
    https://www.airgunforum.co.uk/community/index.php?threads/discovery-vt-2-3-12-x-44-sfir-n.352161/
     
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    Thanks for all of the suggestions. I really liked the look of the EVX 4-16 but the price is not far off the Airmax compact.

    I went for the VT2 3-12x44 advertised on the forum. Fair price and should do the job for now. Leaves some funds for a PG4 tuneup.
     
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  14. Lostkiwi

    Lostkiwi Tomorrow will be a good day.

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    I think you'll like it. It has a great reticle and is nicely made.
     
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