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Advice V-mach, vortex, Welsh Willy, chambers or maccari?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by tomsteebs, Mar 29, 2014.

  1. tomsteebs

    tomsteebs Donator

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    Hi,

    Can anyone shed some light on the main differences and benefits to each of the above tuning kits?

    Also considering wonky donkey but that is not a kit form tune.

    Would be for a webley longbow if that makes a difference...

    Cheers
    Tom
     
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    hello, what are you trying to achieve? i dont see a tune kit for that rifle from WW. most springers can be made better by a polish and re lube with new top hat etc, maybe a new webley/titan spring not forgetting a new piston seal.
     
  3. tomsteebs

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    Basically, 4main needs:

    Twang
    Recoil strength
    Loudness
    Smoothness

    (consistency should be a result of the above?)
     
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    Wonky Donky tune makes mincemeat of any available kit out there and doesn't cost much more.

    The Longbow has a dearth of options available for it. WW might be willing to make a kit for you, but it might be more bother than it's worth (probably not worth his while unless lots of people are likely to order one).

    In brief, the V-Mach kit includes a piston seal while the Welsh Willy one's don't so when you factor that cost in there's nothing to choose between them in monetary terms.

    Vortek kits are pretty astonishing - I've installed several now and I have one in my HW95. Their VAC seal is brilliant and the kit itself produces the quietest gun bar none - even quieter if you do some additional fettling yourself.

    Maccari tends to be very smooth and sedate, Chambers are IMHO the poorest option out there.

    None of the above as far as I know do an off the shelf kit for your particular gun though, discounting Chambers who I would treat as a last rather than first (or only) resort. Happy to learn otherwise, but most folks who fettle a Longbow do it by getting the bits made or modifying the existing ones and slicing and dicing a Titan mainspring.

    There are a fair few threads on various forums about tuning the Longbow.

    Finally, in order of shooting experience:

    Vortek
    Maccari/Welsh Willy
    V-Mach

    V-Mach kits can be quite 'thumpy' and although they are a huge step up from a factory stock gun they are still a little squirrely compared to the others.

    Keep in mind that Wonky Donky will tune the gun exactly how you want it - if you want the fastest possible lock time you can have that. If you want a very soft, gentle and sedate firing cycle you can have that. Or if you want fill-in-your-preference-here you can have that instead.

    No contest IMHO - get the gun off to Wonky Donky and do the whole "we're not worthy" thing when you get it back :D
     
    Last edited: Mar 29, 2014
  5. andy draper

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    BAR do the v-mach kits for £77.95.I looked on the site but no longbow mentioned in stock,they are a supplier for v-mach so I can't see why they can't get you one,the v-mach site says they make them.It is a good kit with all you need apart from a new breech seal.As it comes in a kit it will probably be manufactured so the guide and spring are matched perfectly.If you go down the separate parts route,you will need a spring,then top hat and guide made for it (tinbum?) piston seal £20 odd quid and make your own piston sleeve,plus grease etc and breech seal.I would go for the v-mach myself,it will work out cheaper in the long run when you take p&p into account for separates,plus you know what you are getting with the kit quality wise.
    HTH.
    andy.
     
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    hello, a new top hat etc polish and relube should get rid of twang and better recoil/ smoother too, as for loudness take off muzzle brake and put a decent silencer on instead try matt 975 on here. look on chambers web site for spares/diagram for seals/spring?? for the full cost of a tune kit £60 you could do cheaper and still get results and buy a silencer.
     
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    You can order a Vmach kit for the Longbow direct from Steve Pope, which gives you a quick lock time and a smooth action.
     
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    Pop it to WD he's not that far from you, you wont regret it.
     
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    Im kinda leaning that way, i like the idea of someone with the rifle tuning it as oppossed to me putting parts in....
     

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