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US/Russia. I found this quite scary.

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by dancza, Jul 29, 2016.

  1. cybernet69

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    It would be upto each individual to find their own resources and rebuild their lives. Government and selected armed forces would be fully protected.
     
  2. cybernet69

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    hahahahaha. :up:
     
  3. Treecreeper

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    And wouldn't our drinking water be contaminated as well as any surviving farm animals ?

    My mate is married to a Polish girl who was affected by the Chernobyl fallout. The country was still communist then so we didn't hear anything about the cloud that passed over Poland & the Poles weren't warned either but to cut a long story short, about 25-40% of Poles were affected by this cloud & have gone on to develop thyroid problems & cancer. My mates wife had to go to hospital for thyroid cancer recently, she was treated with radioactive iodine & had to stay in isolation for 3 months with no contact with her family or anyone else because she was so radioactive.
     
  4. DR2501

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    I completely agree re the water, thats why we've been stockpiling it. 19p per bottle in sainsburys or asda :)
    I also have a survival water filter although I'm not sure how helpful that would be.

    I think vegetables would be more of an issue than finding meat - we don't want scurvy!
     
  5. SteveO

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    My wife developed thyroid cancer about 14 years ago and had a lobectomy, she's got about 1/5 of it left. After being treated it's a 100% success rate as the iodine is absorbed quickly and totally by the thyroid (if I remember rightly) She was told there was a huge increase in this type of cancer in young people and it was likely Chernobyl that caused it.

    She used to tell people I cut her throat when they ask about the scar but it's faded a lot now, it's actually lower than the throat, slightly on the chest. Probably not as funny as it was all them years ago and with the events that are happening lately in the world.

    She says that hardest part is when they put the camera up her nose and down her throat to have a look if everything is okay during check-ups.

    Friggin' cancer! :thefinger2:
     
  6. Honest Bob

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    If all out war broke out, all the preparation in the world would not save you, it would just prolong the inevitable, you may as well just sit outside and kiss your back side goodbye, that is if you got a warning to start with, the powers that be would not tell us anyway, as it would just cause mass panic. It is not Russia we should be afraid of, but those evil nut cases like IS, they would not think twice about causing mass murder on an epic scale. They think they will go to heaven, with four and twenty virgins waiting for them, what they don't know is they are all nuns with shot guns.
     
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    You would need to store enough water and food for 14 days. After that period of time then you could hunt for meat but you would need to wash it, remove all internal organs and then cook it properly. You would also need a respirator and protective clothing costing around 300.00.

    Many people would actually survive the initial blasts, around half the population. Allot would die from panicking, running onto the streets, getting covered in fall-out and die a very horrible death, rather slowly.

    The ones that would survive would be the ones that could survive the main blast, avoid the fall-out, find food/water and be able to protect themselves. Anarchy would be everywhere.
     
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    Where there is life, there is hope :)

    I'd at least try and survive, rather than lying down and giving in!
     
  9. cybernet69

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    Well said. :up:
     
  10. Honest Bob

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    I admire and respect your attitude and optimism, but I am too old to run, I think I would just open a can and take up smoking again. And the US and Russia have enough weapons to wipe out almost all life on the planet many times over. Even if you could survive the initial blasts and fall out, the UK would just be a radioactive waste land void of life me thinks. Atb, Bob.
     
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    If it all kicks off I plan on going for a paddle in the kayak and get the biggest sunburn of my life, the fish can have my body and no one needs to clear up after me.
    The thought of having to suffer all the hardships the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki had to endure with the added impact of high population per square mile here and the excessive number of bombs that would be dropped just makes for a prolonged agonizing end.
    If I had children then I might take a different view but as my ex terminated our baby that is a moot point.

    Rob.
     
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    You can forget about shelters and storing tin food it's totally pointless and a complete waste of time.in the event of a nuclear attack most of the country would be uninhabitable for years, decades even, you only have to look at Chernobyl and Fukushima and that is small scale to what damage nuclear weapons could inflict.A nuclear conflict would mean the end of the world as we know it i.e virtually total destruction for the countries directly involved and with all the radio active fall out being carried on the winds many other parts of the world would be severely affected.
     
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    It would be possible to survive with the right equipment. But you would have to be prepared to proactively protect yourself using extreme force.
     
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    Rubbish,whatever measures ordinary civilians could make or take would only put off or prolong the inevitable.The Chernobyl disaster took place 30 years ago last April and most of the area is still uninhabitable and the fallout from that was far less than the fallout from current nuclear weapons.Anybody that thinks they could survive in their homemade nuclear shelterand for god knows how many years is living in fantasy land bearing in mind that most of the country and every thing in it would be highly contaminated with radio active fall out i.e its water,its land its infrastructure that which wasn't destroyed any way.
    That's why the Nuclear Deterrent is a MAD policy i.e "Mutually Assured Destruction"
     
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  15. Stevie Darling

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    These bloody leaders all need a good hard shag and get rid of some testosterone!

    I've got more missiles than you, ne ne ne nenene

    Sad pricks!
     
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    I have a huge interest in nuclear strategy, and actually have formal education in it, but that's another story!

    What's interesting is individual nuclear policy, Russia had a 'no first use' policy until the mid 90's, which they rescinded because of NATO's conventional forces were expanding.

    They now have an official doctrine that they may use a nuclear first strike if there was large scale conventional aggression, this doesn't need to be physical, military aggression, more an aggressive threat.

    Bear in mind, the US refuses to accept a non first strike policy, it's only the MAD doctrine that is keeping the peace, not the US.

    Putin is having to deal with such an aggressive stance from NATO, Which has such massive conventional forces combined, he has no choice but to remind us of his nuclear capability.

    Russia would not strike first, there are paper after paper evidencing Russia's use of force only in defence.

    If I were to surmise it's easy to see how an exchange might start, and if we're not careful it could happen very quickly indeed.
     
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    On the contrary, it's a paradox, the more nuclear weapons each side has, the more stable and likely hood of an exchange become less.
     
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    Don't worry guys, I'm their missile aimer:D.
     
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    It's a bit like open carry in some US states, potential criminals see a side arm on the hip and just move along, not worth the hassle.
     
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    One in three wild boar in that are shot are still buried as nuclear waste in many parts of Germany 30 years after Chernobyl.
     

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