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Upgrading from pulsar N550

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by mattgriff88, Sep 3, 2014.

  1. mattgriff88

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    Evening all,

    i currently have a pulsar N550 with anightmaster 800Ir and im looking to upgrade.
    Im happy with the detection range but i dont think the picture is as clear as it could be.

    Could anyone recommend anything, must have the same detection range or better.
    was thinking of the Pulsar N750A but is it that much better than the 550?

    The drone pro and the new ATN X-Sight has been mentioned but im not sure how they perform compared to the pulsar.

    will be getting used on a centerfire rifle so need a scope capable of 300 yards+ more the better.

    Thanks
     
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    Are you getting set up for foxing with your new gun?

    If you are you really want some kind of off the rifle spotter.
    Many people are now starting to use spotters mounted to a 4x4.

    For foxing rifle mounted nv scopes are not that great for the initial spot. Very hard to scan with for a long time as the foxes will come from all directions.

    You really want to be able to see a foxes reactions at around 800m - 1k. So that you can adjust your squeak according to his reactions and bring him in 300 yard shots are seldom needed.
    I would be sticking to the NV you have and investing in long range spotting gear.

    Or starting again with a 4x4 mounted spotting system. A NV unit with a screen and a door mount for the gun. You need a screen unit as that allows you to rotate the gun 180 degrees in the door mount, you are unable to get your eye to a non screen NV unit.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Hi andy,

    i have a pulsar recon 750 as a spotter but to be honest thats not great.

    is there anything you would recommend?

    Even if i did upgrade my spotter i would still like to upgrade my scope to at least the N750A
     
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    Most of the people I know are using 4x4 roof mounted spotters now as I do. Watec cameras lightforce ir lamps that have huge spotting range. Or the archer stuff out of my price range.
    You will find with NV foxing it's more about spotting and calling. You need a good electric call and as many mouth calls as you can get.
    It's a matter of trying them a watching the foxes reaction.

    Most of your shots will be as close as you let the fox come, you need often to shout OI to get him to stop his run in, a few foxes will be more nervous and need taking at range but you will get nearly all foxes to 200 the NV on the gun need not be that great.
    Sorry I can't be of more help.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    ok... what sort of range can I expect with a watec camera?
     
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    Around 1k with a lightforce IR lamp and a 75mm lens.
    Cheers Andy[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    nice setup...

    What watec cam is it the 902H ?
     
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    Yes and a quality 75 mm lens. The IR lamp runs through a dimmer so as the foxes get closer the lamp can be dimmed down.
    Cheers
     
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    what lens and how much did it cost if you dont mind me asking?
     
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    I can't remember the name of it I can let you know if you want. £120 second hand eBay.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Yeah that would be great.... any idea if it would me worth me going for the 902h2 ultimate?
     
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    That's the one we have i think. I don't think there is a lot of difference. It's the power of the ir lamp that makes these setups work so well.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    ok thanks.... hopefully sort something out soon.
     
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    just bought a brand new watec cam for £75
     
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    That's cheap!!!! If it's eBay be sure someone is not a 902b or something.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    The lens is an electrophysics corp 75mm 1.4 fstop.
    None on the bay at the moment. But there are many others I imagine they will all work much the same.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Keep the n550 every one i no who sold em wish theyed kept them weather they upgraded to drones n750 or home builds if your going home build the e700 is the cam to get but id still rather have my n550 back for foxing was a perfect set up on live rounds
     
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    I think it is fairly simple to fit a screen to a n550 so that it can be used from a 4x4 window too.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Yeah andy the likes of angle eye or jxd units or u could just re wire a rear view screen to plug in tne av sockets i no a lot of lads who all sold there n550 esp when photon came out ( myself included) and all regret selling it new is not always better with that ir set up u got there bet its like watching a footie match would love to see the watec or E700 under the ir light set up :up:
     
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    Lots of people using the roof mounted camera and the gun fixed in a window mount now for foxing.
    It's a very good very safe system for fox control but you can't really call it hunting anymore. You don't put the rifle in your shoulder or need to hold it still all done for you by the window mount, you often fire the gun with your thumb.
    In the bad weather you sit in the car with the windows done up and scan until you see a fox. Good for people like is who just want rid of foxes, but hunting, no not really.
    You do get to watch wildlife in absolute clarity at night going about their business not knowing you are there.
    Cheers Andy
     

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