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tyroleon stocks?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by martin22, Sep 6, 2014.

  1. martin22

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    anyone useing them and how you getting on with it? been doing a lot of looking into one lately but from what i can gather there marmite,you either love em or hate em?
    i know they were designed for open sights primarily but ive read one or two use them succesfully with scopes and rave about how good they are,i would want to use one with a 32 lense scope on low mounts (so pretty low to the barrel) but i dont know anybody with one so havnt had the chance to shoulder one
    not sure whether to take the gamble but its a fair chunk of cash if i dont get on with it
    so anyone on here useing one with a scope and any pics you could upload?
    thanks
     
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    bit of a 80's thing really, look lovely more then being good to use lol, nice old hw80 and 77 venoms etc
     
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    They work well with smaller scopes/lower mounts.Can be hard to get correct eye relief but very comfortable once you get everything set up
     
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    Hada few over the years my opinion they work very well with nv units orhigh mounts they do help with a paralax issues too giving a good cheek weld believe cs stocks still do them under cs600 brand name or that was what the rapid type was and do look very very nice but do fetch daft cash at times
     
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    cheers fellas,agree there are some nice looking tyro stocks out there and really do fancy one just weary forking the money out without trying one first,i was up at cs stocks yesterday to pick my 500 up and yes they do still offer the 600 but he didnt have one there to try,he also said there not as popular these days as a lot of folk dont get on with them with scopes being the norm these days,in fact he said he'd only sold 2 this year
    he did say though that if your suited to one they are very comfertable to use
     
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    High mounts are a must with them that why nv untis work great with them best to try one first but now i now they do them still u got me thinking now formy pro sport i loved em on rapids and the old hws 80 / 77 ectfrom venomlooked awesome with them imo
     
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    As much as i like these stocks apart from finding the right scope & mounts set up where you may find them awkward is steep angle shots or prone.As the head stock alinement is so good when you change stance & the shoulder changes position the neck hence head becomes out of line basically un comfy so you adjust then the scope image is not correct & parallax raises its ugly head.
    Look good though.
     
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    Tyrolean stocks were developed for use in 10m competition shooting with diopter sights in late 50's - 60's.
    All major brands (Walther, Weihrauch, Feinwerkbau and Diana) had them as an option

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    FWB 150T DeLuxe + Simmons WTC 1.5-5X20 - A favourite combination when it come to vintage airgun competitions.

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    Walther LG55T & LGV T

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    Weihrauch HW55T

    All tyrolean stocks were made of walnut and usually featured 5 panel checkering. There were the most expensive stock options in their time.
    There were considered to offer advantage in target shooting and were banned by UIT (today's ISSF) from competitions in the early 70's.

    Weihrauch continued to offer a tyrolean stock option for the HW35, 77 & 80 until late 80's

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    Vintage HW77 Tyrolean stock

    whereas Venon and Maccari offered their fabulus stocks to their customers

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    Vintage Maccari HW80 Tyro - lost in the post thanks to Parcel Force

    Custom Stocks offers the tyrolean CS600 inleted for any HW action

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    CS600 for HW77/97

    Although the CS600 is a nicely made stock, the cheek is too low (ref to the pics) something that in turn makes the use of scope a bit awkward.

    There is no norm as to the required mount height, and considering that tyrolean stocks are not adjustable, it all depends on the bone structure of the face of the individual user.
    If it suits you, it is great and very very comfortable and, by locking your head into the exact same position every time, elimenates any parallax errors, however, one has to bear in mind that these stocks were designed for shooting only horizontally.

    Personally, I love them for both practical and historical / aesthetical reasons.

    Nicholas
     
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    loving the walther and HW55 tops :up:
     
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    A great selection of Tyroleans there,loving the 55T & LGV:up:
     
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    lovely selection of rifles there,its something ill have to have a good think about and hopefully find one i can shoulder first
     
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    Why? I have standard mounts on mine and it works perfectly with the 40mm objective. A 32mm objective would sit at the same height on the fixed Rapid mounts.

    Brilliant stock - could do with a bit of an R10 tulip on the forend to balance with the pistol grip cap, but that is being looked into. It has been fine like this for years. i like it, but I get on with standard ambi stocks too.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Just how i found it my factory tyrolene looked very diffrent to that stock though simon was a lot higher but had bigger indent on the cheek piece ile try dig outa pic if its on my photobucket got to be tne best type of factory stock on agun the tyrolene mk1 rapids
     
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    FWB did them also, for use with diopters, I had a lovely boxed universal with full set of accuracy international diopters, regret selling it.[​IMG]
     
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    The reason you don't need high mounts on your set up is because the breach block sits high in the stock in effect like having high mounts on.The 80 & other springers have the action /scope rails almost level in the stock.
     
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    That stock is lush.
     
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    Having seen the picture of the CS600 stock thats been posted up, its put me right off considering one, that cheek piece is way to low for scope use, but no doubt good for open sights.
     
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    totally agree,if i come accross a decent second hand original tyro i may consider one but otherwise i think ill play it safe and stick with a nice sporter
    ive never owned a thumbhole either but im wondering whether to break the mould and push the boat out and give one a try
     
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    As said before,everyone's different but on my venom tyrolean stocks I needed smaller scope/lower mounts but on the venom vantage stocks I need bigger scopes/higher mounts as the cheek piece on the vantage spotter stocks are higher than the Tyrolean cheek pieces
     
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    If anything tyrolean stocks make the need to use lower mounts essential inmo, think about it they were designed for use with dioptre sights, so it all depends on the stock and gun it was placed on I suppose but I would have thought mounting on the lowest possible mounts would suit tyrolean stocks more due to your cheek sitting in the groove rather than on a high cheek piece.;)

    If you do need high mounts that would be enough to sway me away from them anyway as any small scope sat as close to a bore as possible is better use to me than something perched up high with means aiming off more and top heavy, but I don't think its the case, on something like a tyrolean hw77 you would be better with a 40mm scope on lows inmo.
     

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