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Tx200 Tuning Kits

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by cloverleaf, Feb 8, 2019.

  1. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Might have a need for a tuning kit for a TX; a Mk3 that's ideally being short-stroked with a Mk2 piston.

    My initial thought was Vortek, but unfortunately they only do a kit for the Mk3 it seems. The AA service kits are generally better than most, however contain a load of bits that aren't required, their piston seals are crap and there's not a huge difference in price once you've factored in the price of a new seal etc.

    As such does anyone have any recommendations please?
     
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  2. john79

    john79 sywell ft club

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    V-mach kits , the v-mach seal's are very good I fit them in all my boingers
     
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    littleJon365 Democracy unless they disagree

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    I’ve used a TBT in mine but I’d be interested in WW or V-Mach/glide kit if anyone has used one of those. I don’t think the difference is that much better on paper with mine TBH
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    I've done a few TX's with Nick Stanning's delrin kits. All have been good, one was exceptional (purely down to getting that particular rifle just right)

    You know you're not going to get it to shoot as well as a mk2 though Mike don't you ? The barrel's not long enough (well about 3" shorter than the mk2 anyway). The extra harshness makes it worse than the mk3 (in my opinion)
    I ran a complete mk2 setup in a .22 HC (genuine mk2 parts) . My .177 mk3 HC shot far better. I owned them both at the same time.

    As for the seals, the Vortek kit is a whole load of money and for the TX in my opinion not worth the spend.
    I think I tried a gamo 25mm closed face seal on one of mine from Custom Air seals.
    I've tried V Mach too.
    None offered any advantage over the factory TX seal sadly. The factory seals are also easier to size.
     
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  5. Poison Dwarf

    Poison Dwarf Engaging Member

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    Do yourself a favour and get a Tony Leach 22mm kit ;)
     
  6. mikeyhall1

    mikeyhall1 BRIT SEALS - M & M Products - TbT

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    Watching this thread with extreme interest!
     
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  7. Brother Caleb

    Brother Caleb You have been judged and found unworthy!

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    Hi Clover I put a Vortek in my TX Mk3 rifle along with a Mk2 piston and have no problem making 10.8, my shooting buddy has done the same with his short version and ditto on the result so worth a bash. I have made no attempt to push the power as I really can’t see the point, the molly cup seal is brilliant.

    Now got the same set up in my Prosport and likewise no problem making good consistent power Tony Burton is a really nice guy and willing to chat.
     
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  8. 32:1

    32:1 Yea, I like it

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    This ^^^^

    I think the DIY kit is only £120 Mike. Nothing comes close to these and Ive tried

    Chris
     
  9. Air arms boy

    Air arms boy Wear sunscreen!

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    Does wonky donkey still work on the tx200’s.?
     
  10. cooper_dan

    cooper_dan Posting Addict

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    If you are going with a mk2 setup just use standard air arms mark 2 parts including the spring. Absolut brilliant setup.
    This is what i use for HFT. Ive shot almost every tuning kit out there and at the end of the day i still have my standard mk2 internals, which says a lot.
     
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  11. Rincewind666

    Rincewind666 Registered User

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    I'm gonna have to say tinbum aka Nick mate, I think it's already been said that he makes then bespoke for the exact rifle your using, I've had WW (great stuff) venom kits (also top end) but you just can't beat the personal hands on job form the TBT team , also he uses the best materials for the job, I'm in no way paid to say this btw haha or associated with the company , just found them to be the most attention to detail kind of thing, also clover congrats on the TX mate , rifle porn them things :rolleyes:
     
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  12. Robgriff1

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    Vortek is the way forward I’ve put one in my tx and ps and playing with an idea to make one fit in my pe
     
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    FPoole Keyboard Hero

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    The Vortek full power kit for the MarkIII will give you very near the 12 ft. lbs., if you use a MarkI or MarkII short stroke piston. I seem to recall the kit makes about 15-16 ft. lbs. with the standard MarkIII piston. I use a Maccari spring, guide, and seal in my current FT set up as well as a couple of others. This one is a MarkIII, but I used an old FAC MarkII piston. It has about 93 to 94 mm stroke and the spring is a bit softer than an old MarkII spring. It cocks easily and it doesn't rattle my teeth, but it isn't dead calm. Tuesday evening there was zero wind and I managed to put 10 shots inside 1", out at 55 yards, FT style. 9 of those were inside .625", but I pulled shot 3. Not normal, but it shows the gun is capable.
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    A considerately set up mk3 will outshoot a mk3 converted to mk2 spec.
    Shot cycle will be better as will ease of shooting.

    Mk2 setup is best with the mk2 barrel length

    Though AA have endured some considerable flak for going to the mk3 setup, it actually works.

    And hard as one might try, a mk3 will not become a mk2, regardless of who says it will
     
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    Poison Dwarf Engaging Member

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    Here's a pic of the TL 22mm conversion kit. Probably one of the best tx shot cycles once converted. Except maybe a NIck Gibney conversion. Each feels different, I think NG is the snappier/faster cycle, a TL is a bit softer/slower. The good thing about the TL conversion is its totally reversible so you can put your gun back to standard for resale if you so desire. I have a few TX's, 2 MK1's a MK2 and lots of Marks3's and most have a TL kit in :) At the end of the day doesnt matter whats inside its what it feels like to you thats important.
     

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  16. michael54r

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    Ive just fitted the Tony Leach kit and it makes power very easily even in a .177, cut a new spring down to 210mm as instructed with a 1mm power washer & it settled at 11.4 Ftlbs so reduced further to 10.8 ftlbs.
    Very efficient kit with little piston weight and preload, shoots great.
     
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    PhatMan Keyboard Hero

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    cloverleaf,

    For a 'traditional' 25mm TX drop-in kit, I would recommend Welsh Willy or Wonky Donky.

    I have sent you a PM.

    Have fun :)

    Best regards

    Russ
     
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    It all depends on what you are after , if you fancy doing it yourself , and you like the idea of a mark 2 style tune , use your existing piston with a nose to accept either an LGU or an HW seal, the nose can set the stroke at the mark 2 length , then lighten the piston( looking for circa 200 grm) , by either drilling the bore or machining the od ,you can use the standard mark 3 spring with this , very nice tune for 25mm diameter tube TX'S , and you can use most of your original parts
     
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    Or you could just stick an LGV piston in it, Nick. ;)
     
  20. Artfull-Bodger

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    Contact Sean at ISP and get a short stroke latch rod, machine the compression tube end cap down to the threads shortening the transfer port and fit a HW seal by machining off the AA one and fitting a new seal seat, then lighten the piston to 220g ish, depending on pellet chosen, and spec a spring that suits you.

    Pretty much all you need to do.
     
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