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Scopes Turret adjustment for shots at range anyone ?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by 177, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. 177

    177 Donator

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    I took a friend of mine out for a few hours the other night on one of my permissions.

    He's had a bad run of it recently and I thought it might buck him up a bit.

    I did, and he hasn't sopped banging on about it :rolleyes:

    He was using my Logun Gladiator and Bushnell Legend 5-15x40 mil dot rig and we'd spent a while getting him used to the laser range finder and then adjusting aim points.

    I went away to sort out a few things on one of my other rigs and when I came back I noticed the turrent caps were off the scope on the Gladiator. Now, I have this rig set bang on, literally. You can shoot the head off a match at 30 yards benchrested, so I wasn't impressed with changing what already works.

    When I asked what he was doing my mate said "changing zero to match the range".

    Hmmmm...

    It's a mil dot scope, which I pointed out to him...

    "Ah. but, I've worked out how many clicks I need at 40 and 50 yards and it returns to zero by counting them back".

    I can't argue with that - I've shot long range full bore rigs in America where it's sometimes standard practice, but this isn't exactly sniper school we're talking about here with a sub 12 FPE air rifle...

    "Here. try this" he says, handing me my own gun and pointing to the 40 yard target with a couple of map pins pushed in as aim points.

    "Just aim right at the pin"

    Irritatingly, I blew the map pin to bits, so he was right :rolleyes:

    So, the question I am slowly meandering towards is, are there any other shooters out there who use this method ?

    Obviously a mil dot, BDC or other multi-aim point scope wouldn't be necessary under these circumstances.

    I saw the guy on Hunters Vermin YouTube channel do this recently.

    Anyone else ?
     
  2. muzzy76

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    I used to dial my shots all the time. Did it all the time in the Army so it was just 2nd nature. Then I got a bit lazy and just started using the various aim points on both the SR6 and SCB reticle.

    If you've got a good scope and it returns to zero every time though, it's a good way of shooting. No more guess work, just click and shoot.
     
  3. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    No issues with cranking the 'scope for every shot per se; however when you factor in user error, increased wear and potential for reduced repeatability on the (usually cheaper) glass we usually use on airguns, I'd stick to using a multi-aimpoint ret, personally.
     
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    OK if you punching paper, also factor in live quarry and their reluctance to stand still for too long and i'd be using the mildots everytime for that, if you shoot at something at a different rang to your zero and it's 8 clicks or 1 mildot i'd be taking the latter
     
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    Horses for courses I suppose, I prefer to use the mildots,they're etched on the glass and,to me,this is more consistent.
    Although with my skills it makes little or no difference.:eek:
     
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    The theory is great and proof that it works, however, on cheap scopes is the reticle returning to exactly the same pont each time and if you get one click out every now and then the zero will start to go out.

    Fine for top notch, expensive quality scopes with suitable marking as reference points but on your average air rifle scope it will go pear shaped after a while in my opinion.
     
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    most field target guys dial, i dial its easier to go off cross hairs every time so you can allow for wind easy. chair gun will be able to tell you clicks for every yard assuming you imput the ifomation in accuratly

    @50yrds with wind its easier for me to aim on cross bar, 2 dots to the left appose to 2 1/2 dots down and 2 dots left
     
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    Using the elevation turret to dial up the ranges does have some advantages, in particular the range settings don't alter with the magnification unlike multi aim point reticles. When I've used this method I've always marked the actual ranges on the turret rather than counting clicks, a sticky label wrapped around the turret is ideal to write on. It's simple to shoot at a measured range and adjust the zero and then mark that range on the label, repeating for each range you want to use. Chairgun Pro will give you a good idea of the approximate settings which you can refine at the range.
    When you have measured or estimated the range to your target you simply dial it up. When the label is accurately marked you can wrap in in sellotape to waterproof it.
     
  9. AirRifleSport

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    As Terry said above, it is nice to be able to use ANY magnification you prefer with this method.

    Here is the label on my elevation turret.


    [​IMG]
     
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    Do the lines in between the yardages on your picture above represent "clicks" on the elevation turret and did you print your "stick on label" off Chairgun pro as it looks very precise/professional? What do the top number represent?
     
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    Unless its a top end scope all the dialing up and down will take its toll on the adjusters, I dont dial for shots i just aim off but if i was going to start dialing i would invest in a schmidt and bender or something similar as cheap to mid priced scopes will not repeat themselves for very long if at all.
     
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    i use both methods dial in on my ranger and mil dots on my theoben cos i need to use that at night too . if you dial in make sure you lock it down every time it makes a difference.
     
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    Funny that. Taught a mate how to dial for ranged shots with his HMR and .22 hornet. On one is a MTC, the other a Hawke Sidewinder, both "cheap to mid" priced scopes. They both dial flawlessly and have been doing so for a number of years with rather regular use.
     
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    Looks like the worlds military could save a small fortune and do away with top end scopes and invest in hawke or MTC scopes then,I have friends who dial their scopes in and have all bought more expensive scopes as the cheaper scopes have all proved unreliable tell me that they are working flawlessly after 5000 shots and still repeat accuratly and i will buy half a dozen.
     

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