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Question Tuning Kits and Professional Tuning

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Smithz, Feb 9, 2014.

  1. Smithz

    Smithz Well-Known Member

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    Hey everybody.

    Now i'm hopeing that alot of you good people out there have had some experience with either tuning kits or going and getting your air rifle professionally tuned or even done it yourself. And im hoping even more so that a few of you might even tried one of these options with the rifle i have in mind.

    The Weihrauch Hw95 Luxus in .22 i'm looking into getting this tuned up, the orginal idea i had was to simply buy one of these "tuning kits" and do the work myself. Yes i will admit i am no gunsmith and don't really have a massive knowledge of the workings of springer rifles but after doing some research it seemed...doable.

    But before jumping into this little project of mine i wanted to ask you guys of your experiences and opinions with either "tuning kits", professional tuning or even self tuning, preferably with the Weihrauch Hw95 in 22 cal. Any help would be appreciated guys.

    Thanks
     
  2. Jackroadkill

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    Do it - it's not hard to transform a rifle with a bit of care and attention. You can buy a really good tuning kit for around sixty pounds, and with a few basic tools and a bit of planning and preparation you can do a good job yourself, whilst learning a lot about how a rifle works. There are numerous kits available - which one you choose is up to you.

    I have done tuneups on a few rifles now:

    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/173665-HW97-Stripdown-and-tune

    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums...une-Well-eventually?highlight=airsporter+tune

    http://www.airgunforum.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/172243-Cometa-300s-tuning?highlight=hw80+tune

    Here are three just to show you what's involved. Your 95 comes apart slightly differently to the other HW's, but it's still very easy. The internals are largely the same and the principles are identical.
     
  3. Smithz

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    Thanks Jack i'll take a good look at them, I knew the kits did'nt require any sort of specialist tools, Do you feel the kits are the way to go? Rather send the rifle off to get tuned.
     
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    Well, it depends; for me, I only ever thought about doing it myself. This was due to keeping the costs down and the fact that I love fiddling with things to find out how they work and what can be done to improve them. If you want a massively pro job with things like having the piston banded or buttoned, or lightened, or having the transfer port reamed etc, then maybe a pro job would be best. It's entirely up to you, but for me it's a no-brainer.
     
  5. Smithz

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    Yeah i see your point when you mention cost, i mean i brought my 95 because it was a reasonably priced but very good rifle, and at the stage i am right now with my airgunning im still very new too the whole thing so going a spending aload of money on getting it done professionally may yield good results but does'nt seem practial right now.

    And like you i too like the idea of getting into the knitty gritty of the gun and learning as i go, even if it going to be a little nerveing at first seems like a no brainer now. But it's always good to hear from people with more experience on the subject at hand, Again thanks very much Jack.
     
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    If there are any questions you have, or you need any advice or tips as you go along, please get in touch and I will do my best to help you. I have a 95 so if necessary I can talk you through it. There is also a good video stripdown tutorial on Youtube:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ux0xVwUj54

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f4MzG-UoBQ

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...&feature=iv&src_vid=4f4MzG-UoBQ&v=PUtF063ljJc

    Cheers,

    JR
     
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    Thank you mate that's very kind, There's a lot of odd little jobs i got planned for the rifle (sling, new scope ect...ect...) so it may be some time until i get round to it. But should i ever need a hand i'll keep you in mind fella.
     
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    doing exactly that to my hw95 .22, it doesnt have to cost much. i deburred the chamber (free), got the piston buttoned which cost with postage both ways £52. had a custom delrin 14mm wide spring guide and top hat made for £23 posted, removed the old steel .35mm piston liner and fitted a ptfe .5mm thick one (£3). fitted a rowan extra set back trigger (£36), trigger polish (free), custom homemade barrel shroud (£3)plus £15 for the bluing)and its almost done. just waiting on delivery of a custom cs500 stock (£185)
    actually... im scared to add it all up:eek:
     
  9. Smithz

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    Thanks for the run down there mate, that rifles gonna be a nice peice of kit after all that and judgeing from the homemade shroud (that i've seen) it's all going to be done to a high quality. however for me to attempt that kind of work right now does'nt seem to be keeping within the cheap and beginner level tinkering i had in mind :D

    However i thank you all the same mate it's great to hear what other people have been up too, And just because im not prepared to untake a project like that now does'nt mean i won't be doing it in the future.
     
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    i got a bit carried away with it i must admit, usually a strip and relube does the trick. main thing that helps is the delrin spring guide, top hat and ptfe piston liner which arnt expensive and easy to do with just basic tools.
     
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    I've got a hw95k .177 and from owning it twice (long story) as standard it was very twangy and did not like it too much and was a shock to the system after using a pcp. So I thought a tune kit would sort it and after watching and reading lots and asking members advice I ordered a v Mach kit.

    I set about fitting it and to be honest the hardest bit is saying right I'm going to have a go at this. Once fitted I saw a big difference and it was a dull thud. I ran a few hundred shots through it at the range and was happy but then saw a buttoned piston for sale so snapped it up and fitted it, this time at ease because I knew what was involved.

    On fitting the buttoned piston it shot and felt different again but thought I will give it time. After shooting other tuned springers at the range I felt my was a tad rough, maybe my fitting maybe it's how it is but after running another 500+ pellets through it I'm over the moon with it and things are bedding in and settling. I hit little spinners for fun @35 meters with it and its really coming into its own now and was worth every penny I've spent on it.
     
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    See now that sounds a little more reasonable haha, got any information where i can find them ?
     
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    this chap on the bay (Paul) did my guides and buttoned my piston, he also does the ptfe piston liners cut to shape and ready to put in. send him a pm hes a nice chap
    first set of guides was a little to thin for my spring but he made another set up for me 14mm wide and that fitted a treat.
     
  14. Smithz

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    Hi The Robin

    Thank you for the input mate, i agree my 95 has quite the twang too it (something i hope to get rid of) but i do love the erm....challange that a springer presents so i practice as much as i can.

    The V-Mach kit is the exact kit i've been looking to and i'm very much up for fitting one but i'd be more then willing to improve apon it by adding any other little improvments you can recommend.
     
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    Thanks Mark.

    I'll look into that mate. However you might get a message from in the future asking for a recap on it all if thats not too much of a problem.
     
  16. The Robin

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    The two kits I looked at was v mach and welsh willy and reviews of both where very good but end up getting a v mach kit (nothing against WW)

    The kit came with full intructions and everything needed apart from tool (nothing special needed) I followed it all and had no issues. Just take your time with fitting it but it's pretty easy, I think and I have read after that a full tin or maybe two tins are needed for it to run in and sometimes the power goes up 1/2 ft/lb but I'm keeping a eye on it and it's change only by .2 ft/lb and well under the legal limit :up:
     
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    Ah! that brings up a question speaking of power.

    I'm going to want to chrono my hw95 afterwards, What do you think of those little barrel fitting chronographes? if you've had any experience with them. Will they give me an accurate enough reading so i can work out fpe effectively ?

    Thanks
     
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    a lot of the forum members including me use them, they're very good
     
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    Combros are great if your after a cheap,portable chrony with a lot of functions just make sure it's aligned before shooting otherwise you will have a gaping hole in it
     
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    Any idea on the price?

    Yeah mattyts i've had a small amount of time with one and was very dubious about shoot pellets at something that was'nt mine and was held on my barrel with a selection of rubber bands Haha. :D
     

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