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Tuning AN AIR RIFLE

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by noseb112, Apr 4, 2014.

  1. noseb112

    noseb112 Banned

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    just wondering i know people who have tuned there rifle however they have had it over the legal limit chopped a coil off or 2 then again and so on .Until under but what would would happen if while you were tuning it in the scenario above and it was over 12 ib and the police came round. what would happen and is tuning it illegal . do i own a firearm even if i chop the coils off and then get it under 12ib.
     
  2. mattyts

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    Always wondered this,imagine the scenario,your guns over limit,you take it to the local RFD and on the way you get pulled over and the rifle confiscated ,what do you do?
     
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    If your not an RFD and it's over 12lb then the law is the law I would think, I'd probably say in that scenario it's the officers discretion,
    I would make sure it's booked in with said RFD then it shows your making an effort!!
     
  4. mikemjm

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    why would you get your gun confiscated? The Police don't go round willy nilly grabbing guns and testing even if your been pulled over for something like a traffic offence
     
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    i can vouch for what mikemjm said, me and the brother were pulled on our way to a shoot for for a seatbelt offence, 4 air rifles in the car and they didnt even open the bags.
     
  6. mattyts

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    Could be due to a number of reasons,I never said you would get pulled over for having a rifle,I questioned what would happen if you did and the aforementioned scenario happened.
     
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    What if you won the lottery on the way to the RFD? What if your car was struck by lightening?

    pointless to ask 'what if' questions based upon scenarios that are extremely unlikely to occur
     
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    Not really, unlikely does not mean impossible,I was just asking a question,If it offends you,I won't ask any more questions regarding the legality of owner ship of an air rifle :)
     
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    Anyone tuning an air rifle needs access to a chrono while they are working.

    If ou don't have access to one and you start fettling your gun, you should go and stick your head in a bucket of water because you're asking for trouble. Not necessarily with the police, unless you're spotted waving said gun around and reported...

    You need a means of identifying what your gun is running at before you work on it and what it's running at once it's back together.

    Assuming that is the case, the likelihood of getting a knock on the door that coincides with putting a gun back together is slim at best...

    Assuming you tested your gun at, say, 11 FPE before you started and then assuming you fitted a top hat, which effectively adds preload to the mainspring, it's a reasonable assumption to expect your gun to be higher than its initial test reading. No prizes for working that one out ;)

    If you reassemble the gun and it is over you have to strip it and leave it stripped or start taking coils off or collapsing them to keep the gun under. Once you've done that, you're ok.

    I've met a couple of nuggets over the years who think they're as smart as paint for having their guns running over. The way they've done it is obvious, so I expect if they were ever challenged for whatever reason and their guns taken and tested, not only would there be some explaining to do, if the guns were then examined by a gunsmith who was tasked to put them back within the limit, said gunsmith might be very likely to explain the deliberate and obvious measures taken to force the guns over the limit.

    Basically, after a few shots to settle your freshly tuned gun down, if it is consistently running over the limit you need to strip it and doctor it until it's under. If you do that, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

    DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TUNE AN AIR RIFLE WITHOUT A CHRONO !!!!!!
     
  10. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    I just love scaremongering!!!!!! It won't happen police and FEOs have enough to do without an impromptu visit for unlicensed air guns. if you've an FAC or SGC then there'll be round.
     
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    i don't find bone questions offensive
     
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    Well tuning is a good way to learn more how your gun works, I know when clever sod who fine tuned a set up on his superten then made a hammer spring adjuster that is removable in two seconds the gun goes from 11.7 to 26.8 in a flash. Clever buggeri wish I had one.
     
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    This would no doubt be a rifle what was entered onto the firearms register, yes?
     
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    No its sister gun is on the ticket, it was done to see if its possible the gun is in parts as its spares and back up, its easy to tweak cigar an shims and replace flow restrictor screw with improved version, brute hammer springs are easy, but to make it possible its a shorter softer spring with hammer weight two part spring guide, but it wasnt that simple to fine tweak to go between two power modes, but successful done, this was done out of interest not to be mass produced or sold, experiments got to love them, boundaries are always there to be pushed for FUN,!!!!! !
     
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    thanks really helpful
     
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    if you get pulled over in your car and you have a gun in the car the cops will be more interested in the gun than the fact you have no mot or tax. i was pulled over on my way back from testing some loads we did for a .243 and a.270 for a guy because i was not carrying my rfd cert with me i was escorted back to my house by 2 cop cars one infront of me and one behind me so i could show them my rfd cert it seems they have nothing better to do
     
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    All air rifles are capable of going over if running in the mid 11s, tuned or untuned.
     
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    I think that its a legal requirement to carry your certificate with you when transporting firearms.

    John
     
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    177 has the right idea and anyone servicing or tuning their own weapons should at least have a chronograph at hand. Some of them are cheap enough to let you know if you are legal or not even if they do not have all of the bells and whistles the expensive ones have. I bought one and compared to the one used by my rfd it was only out by a tiny fraction when I checked all of my rifles and pistols to make sure they were compliant!
    If you were to be stopped (and that would probably only be because you had contravened some driving law) the easiest solution would have been to have arranged the chrono test previously with your rfd which the police could then contact and verify. The only reason the Police might then confiscate your weapon would be if it was not being transported securely, out of sight and in a discharged and unloaded condition.
    The Police are not the enemy....the 'enemy' are those who are opposed to our choice of sport which is why we all need to be vigilant and careful of our behaviour and actions while in public view! The only reason I can think of why they would automatically confiscate would be if the stopped person, through aquirring a criminal record, had been banned from owning or holding one. Any responsible FAC weapon owner will always have their certificate with them, not to carry it is irresponsible and the Police then have every right to confiscate or escort the owner to where they can view the certificate as proof of the right to be in possesion of that weapon. The law is the law and it is the same for all of us.
    Hope that helps.......
     
    Last edited: Apr 5, 2014

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