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Trigger happy cops.

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by Tron, Jun 23, 2017.

  1. Tron

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    Just seen a video in the Mirror of a black man being shot by a cop in the USA. what is really disturbing is the way the cop reacted when the poor fellow killed was heard to say "I am a registered firearm holder, and I am carrying a pistol." The cop then starts screaming at the victim "Dont pull it out" Dont pull it out" then shoots the poor fellow 6 times at point blank range. After killing him he then continues to scream at the body "Dont Move" several times. the slain victim was employed at a local school and had no previous convictions of any crime. The really bad part of this story is the cop was found not guilty of the murder (No change there then) Thank God such cops arent on the streets here.
     
  2. Trampilot

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    Why was the cop pointing his gun? There must have been a suspicion of a felony?
     
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    The jury that determined Yanez's fate consisted of seven men and five women. Two jurors were black.[SUP][/SUP] This jury, that heard all the facts, that saw the officer giving evidence, gave a not guilty verdict.

    When a nervous police officer is pointing a gun at you I think it's best if you do exactly what he says.
     
  4. RagnarHairybreeks

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    He did do exactly what he was told. He took seven shots and died next to his girlfriend. And a four year old girl in the back seat.

    This was an utter tragedy, but is what you get when you get a culture as batsh*t gun crazy as the USA.

    Of course the cops are trigger happy, the assumption is that everyone is a threat and your life can be taken at any second.

    And yes he was pulled over for a reason. A brake light on his car wasn't working, that got him killed.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...m-footage-moment-black-man-shot-a7801806.html

    http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/20...ooting-philando-castile-ryan-young-pkg-nd.cnn

    The links I've attached are seriously upsetting. Although both from respected media sources I suggest you don't watch them if you are of a nervous disposition. They show an innocent, law abiding man being killed by a first world law enforcement officer who is subsequently acquitted of all charges.
     
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  5. Stevie Darling

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    A nervous policeman shouldn't have a gun at all,

    he sounds seriously stressed in that video, which in my opinion the cause of this tragic incident.
     
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    If he was told not to get his gun out and didn't listen to the policeman that was pointing a gun at him then it's his own fault. What if the policeman had been the one on receiving end - people only carry guns for one reason and that's to shoot things, if he was a registered carrier he should have known better than to reach for it.
    Well done to the jury for finding him not guilty.
     
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    Not listening to the person with authority to point a gun at him and not following his instructions is what got him killed
     
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    The report reads like it was a misunderstanding coupled with a policeman who appears to have fallen off the edge somewhat. The driver perhaps could have placated the policeman by not doing anything and offering to step out of the car. Hindsight and all that.

    Given the reality of violence in the US - I believe a lot of gun crime stems from cars getting pulled over - then its highly likely perhaps this particular policeman had a previous bad experience.

    Dreadful.
     
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    If the policeman didn't see a firearm being touched then there is no threat, end of.
     
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    I don't think american style policing is perhaps the best model for any country to model their police force on.This sort of incident/occurrence is seemingly becoming all too frequent over there.Still in a country where there is little gun control and virtually anyone can own one provided you're not a convicted felon and shootings are an everyday occurrence there's little alternative but for every police officer to be armed but that may mean some officers carrying firearms who are not best equipped mentally or temperament wise in doing so.I suppose in a country where if you apprehend/stop someone there's a good chance of them pulling a gun on you there's little alternative but to be armed.One of the pleasures of living in a country where gun control or to be more precise the lack of it is the norm.
     
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    Interesting video in that the second officer at no point drew his weapon to back up his partner ... surely this would be the norm in such a situation?
     
  12. RagnarHairybreeks

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    You didn't watch the video links did you Mike?

    1) He is pulled over.
    2) The cop tells him why (brake light out).
    3) The cop asks him for his licence and registration.
    3) To avoid a situation developing he calmly and clearly informs the cop that he has a licenced weapon on him as he reaches for his licence and registration.
    4) The cop empties his pistol into him whilst screaming.
    5) Man dies.

    At no point did he touch his weapon.
     
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    Yeah he was caught being black.
     
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    Like you I have watched the video, but its obviously clear a few ignorant people haven't, and have instead posted comments all over the internet about how they think and feel the killing was justified.

    A man was killed in-front of a 4 year old child and his girlfriend, his only crime was having a busted brake light oh and he was black.

    The american police fear black people, they are racist and will take e every opportunity to kill a black person. The sickening thing is the establishment they represent will do everything in there power to protect them.
     
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    The cops would obviously have seen the woman passenger, but may not have seen the child, heaven forbid a bullet had passed through and hit the kid.:(

    That @ss-hole (police officer) needs to be locked up in a SHU full of Bloods or Crips for his crime. I watched this video a while back and many of the other police on black shootings in Ferguson and surrounding counties and can't help but feel their is an agenda being played out on the black community in the US.

    Not apologising for many of them as lots are thugs and felons but clearly some innocents are being targeted IMO - who would like to speculate why?
     
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    The woman in the video was very brave, she had guns pointed at her the whole time, one wrong move would have meant there would be two bodies in the morgue that day and a 4 year old would be left without a mother.

    Its a bog price to pay for a broken light.

    My thoughts and prayers go out to her and the child.
     
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    Bang on the money here Steve.
     
  18. SteveO

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    Eugenics!

    Same reason there are liquor stores, gun shops and abortion clinics offering free help in many black dominated communities.

    Anyone ever seen the documentaries Hidden Colors?
     
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    I wasn't quite sure what to make of your comment there, Steve... the word "eugenics" rightly or wrongly carries some rather strong emotions. Since half my family are black (ie: my in laws) I was interested to find out so I did a little googling regarding "Hidden Colors". Interesting and informative; It looks as though there is more to your post than meets the eye. Thank you.
     
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    I believe there is definitely a "them and us" attitude between black and white in the US, not because of the colour difference necessarily, but the culture difference.
    When the young white kids start acting and talking like young black kids the predominantly white establishment want to draw a line.
    The policeman, through experience and culture, will assume there's more danger in apprehending a black bloke than a white bloke - not because of colour, but because of the higher crime rate in black neibourhoods.

    So while this film shows a nervous, incapable cop shooting an innocent man, it doesn't show the community demographic.

    Also, the victim had already handed over his drivers licence etc, so what was it that he was reaching for?
    Why did the cop say"don't reach"? Why not say "don't move" which is far less ambiguous?

    Lots of unanswered questions, but it does seem clear that an undertrained cop panicked and shot an innocent man who should have done as he was told.
     

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