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transporting rifle in sports holdall

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by bcham, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. bcham

    bcham Busy Member

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    a friend off mine from my local pub. as a farm and he said i could shoot on his land,only thing is i have no transport,so im thinking of taking the stock off my bsa lightning,and putting both halves in a large sports bag,then catching bus to the farm,as i dont want to carry it in a gunslip and get funny looks,
    and putting the rifle back together there,it should only take a minute or two just 3 screws to tighten up,
    is that legal
     
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    kal el Posting Addict

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    i carry my verminator in a rucksack, its covered and not visible to the public so perfectly legal.
     
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    Effort, but very interested in the answer to this!!!!
     
  4. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    your better off using the gun slip. seen some nasty accidents like broken stocks etc . theres no issue with public transport provided you take precautions
     
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    Such as?
     
  6. bcham

    bcham Busy Member

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    ill wrap both halfs in a towel so cant see any damage happening.
     
  7. ithica -john

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    buy one of those trigger guard lock thingys

    any 'legal' inspecting person can then see the rifle is in-operable

    sorted
     
  8. the logun-ator

    the logun-ator "can i,? wey aye man!"

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    i cant see any problems with that at all...its covered and its in bits..you dont have to transport your weapon in a specific gun slip/case.in fact ive been told on a few occasions having the gun covered isnt a legal requirement,but it is ''advised''.... obviously i wouldnt climb on a bus with a verminator on full show strapped to my back,lol...
    the thing is,if its an a ''head bag'' would it then be classed as a concealed weapon??
     
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    the thing is,if its an a ''head bag'' would it then be classed as a concealed weapon??

    if that's a serious comment [no offense] .............you may be right

    a gun in a slip is exactly that - and so legal

    add a trigger lock and i reckon you are covered
     
  10. the logun-ator

    the logun-ator "can i,? wey aye man!"

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    no offence taken...yes ive often wondered what would be classed as a concealed weapon?...a rifle in bits stuck in a hold all may be just that.
    i cant get a bag/case to fit mine so i stick it in a modified DPM army pants leg,when im at my shoot out it pops and the make shif gun slip either roles up and goes in my pocket or is used as a head/face cover or a scarf...you cant do that with a padded gun bag.
     
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    I shoot at a club that is located in caves under the city center, as a result I have to walk through town from where I park to the club. I carry my rifle in a gun slip, have had a few funny looks but nothing more, a friendly smile helps.

    When I was into airsoft there was a lot of talk about carrying the rifles in various bags, rucksacks etc. However the general opinion was that would be classed as a concealed weapon, however it is a grey area. You could argue that you were only trying to prevent scarring the public, however I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of any allegation. Therefore I carry it is a gun slip, magazine out of the gun and stored unloaded in a separate pocket and the same with the pellets, can't really do much else.
     
  12. cloverleaf

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    Sod that, stick it in the slip and have done with it :p

    I wondered around my local Co-op with my rimmie in a slip over my shoulder recently and nobody batted an eyelid..
     
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    As long as none of the rifle's protruding from the bag I don't see any issues using a holdall. Some gunbags look like big holdalls, some look like musical instrument or some ther equally innocuous item. Saying that I'd imagine a decent guitar case could be used to carry a gun but that might be pushing things in terms of misrepresenting what you're carrying so probably best not to test this one out. Mind you if you check out the bags that come with some TDR's like the Air Arms or Logun-type rifles they're real Day of The Jackal affairs and nobody bothers with them. You could be carrying your work around in one for all most folk would know.
     
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    There is 2 sides to this, on the one hand, your intention if stopped, is clear, you're on a bus whose route goes near a place you have a provable permission on, the law would indeed be an ass if it was used to misinterpret that as you concealing a weapon, on the other hand, you going to a shoot with a gun in a slip is entirely legal too, and while unusual to use public transport, is entirely legal, so in some ways, why worry? You'd get more grief for smoking on the bus. The only small possibility is that the bus company may have some small print in their conditions regarding carrying firearms and a clued up driver may kick you off.

    I dont think overall it matters, but the more open you are about what you are doing, the less likely you will get trouble, its when you hide stuff that it looks suspicious, as another idea, you could always use a ballistics case, it's shape neutral, and only another shooter would know what it is.
     
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    As far as the law is concerned carrying it in your sports bag is completely legal. Whether it's in bits or not is irrelevant. Just make sure it's not loaded. This includes pellets in the mag WHEN the mag is in the gun. There is no law stating you have to have the gun covered however the bus company may have rules of their own. I wouldn't advise ringing them to ask as you will likely be talking to someone who doesn't know and is too busy to find out so to be safe rather than sorry will most likely tell you that it's not permitted

    If I were in your situation I would use a standard slip as that's what they are for. Don't worry about what others think, no matter what you do in this world there will always be someone willing to judge you based on their own up their own ass assumptions
     
  17. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Buy a gun slip, some cheap ones about from the £12 mark, so less than 2 tins of pellets!
     
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    hello providing your bsa is covered up in a proper gun bag its ok but do understand your thoughts, i remember once popping into my bank with shot gun in slip over shoulder, was asked if going fishing!!! to make it easy to dismantle you could alter bolts to thumb screw style not pretty though but as long as tight!!. saying that be carefull with threads.
     
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    As long as its covered and not loaded i think youll be fine, i agree with the "hiding it may seem a bit fishy" way of thinking! i was always nervous when i first started carrying it around, but like a few guys say, most people dont bat an eyelid these days!
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Really? a BSA Tac bag can cope with various heights and widths and lengths, try looking at those!
     

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