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Todays Tinkering - The Lunacy Of Madness.....

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Halinfax, Aug 25, 2021.

  1. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Gentlemen.....

    Not having the use of the car for the morning , I was "forced" into solitary lockdown in the shed...

    Whilst interned, I found several scraps of bits and pieces and put them all together to come up with summat....

    CAVEAT.... The concept was instigated recently if I could make summat with a "larger than usual" diameter .. and it planted the seed of this particular line of lunacy.... along with the polar opposite

    NO NAMES shall be mentioned in this thread.....



    So I cracked on with this "train of thought" and wanted to test this concept...

    "Is bigger always the better??????"

    So.. armed with several cups of coffee and doped up on my medication!!!!! I proceeded... and here are the results...

    Mod A....

    22mm diameter carbon fibre body x 125mm long with "special" internal baffling

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    Mod B....

    50mm aluminium body x 123mm long with "standard" internal baffling

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    CONCLUSION.....

    Both worked very well and I would be happy to hunt with either.....

    However, the slimline mod would be like a "mouse fart in church" on the pistol it was designed for.... and it WAS very effective on the BSA Ultra test rifle...

    Where as the Hals Has Beans mod........ would be like farting in the forest.... several times... but again it was very effective....

    In my humble opinion... bigger ISNT always better...... itwswhats inside and how you use it that counts...

    Now... time for more medication and caffeine!!!

    Tarraaaa.:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
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  2. Bearded Sniper

    Bearded Sniper Keep it simple, stupid

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    Nice work haha!
    Normally I prefer a chunkier mod, but I do like the look of that slim one.
     
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  3. 1260engineer

    1260engineer The Terminator's Armourer

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    As the one that looks like beans got a metric or Imp thread :D
     
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  4. Blue Tomato

    Blue Tomato Busy Member

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    Some strange medication you must be taking there. What about trying the bake bean tin as well, preferably empty. Couldn't stand seeing the mess all over the rifle. o_O
     
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  5. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Its actually an ACME thread 1260..... and there is NO WAT I am gonna put that on ANY HW barrel!!!!
     
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  6. 1260engineer

    1260engineer The Terminator's Armourer

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    :D make a silencer out of an old thermal cup or something really obscure . :thumb:
     
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  7. bighit

    bighit Big Poster

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    Gunpower did a large moderator that was called the bean can. Not sure on the size though.
     
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  8. littleJon365

    littleJon365 Democracy unless they disagree

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    that's almost bigger than the ultra Hal ! reminds me of that film ''no country for old men''
     
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  9. William65

    William65 Out with the dog...

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    How much are they, I go to get one:)
     
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  10. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    More like ... "No HOPE for old men!!!!!":facepalm:
     
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  11. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    1260.... you KNOW better NOT to lay down a challenge!!!!!!!!! look at some of the stuff I did before...

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  12. Clanks

    Clanks Busy Member

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    It's interesting. :thumb:

    You've done a test and proved a point, the baffles inside and internal design is everything. A point of interest though, is if the same internal volume for both the long and thin, and also your baked beans mod, with the best baffles inside and internal design, your "special" internal baffling that you mention, would they again be the same? I'd presume so?? Although it would be of interest to know, as the distance for the air to get out might make a difference.

    It would then come down to what people preferred in looks. Often though, short and fat might well win over long and thin, such as if you were shooting out of a car window in a Bunnie drive by :eek: or storing, handling and transporting something.

    Short and fat can have additional volume without it really noticing. It would be good to know if short and fat was worse for the same internal volume. Even if it was, a slight increase in diameter would hardly notice, but could even it out between the two, or even make it better and more practical in use.

    If you are interned again, would it be possible to pursue this, as there could well be a market for short and stumpy.
     
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  13. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Heyup Clanks.. thanks for the post.....

    Roughly calculating..
    The 22 od x 20 id x 100mm internal space equates to about 31,416 cubic millimetres
    The 50 od x 46 id x 95mm internal space equates to about 159,542 cubic millimeres

    The smaller mod is approx, 80.31% smaller in internal volume... but yet... just about as effective....!!!!

    Perhaps the material attenuation, resonant frequencies and harmonics have a mitigating factor to consider in the actual working of the mods... (tgat is summat WAY above my pay grade to calculate)

    Personally, I prefer the smaller mods (between 30 - 35mm diameter and approx 160-190mm long depending on the rifle.

    Every mod on every gun of mine has my own creations on them.. and I am more than happy with each and every one..

    There are MANY out there who like the "Fat and Fatter Boy" or "Stumpy", "Dumpy" or "Tin Can" style mods... and there are a good number of fellow tinkerers who can provide them upon request.

    For me personally... I just like to mess around in my shed and tinker away!!

    Good luck mate...:thumb:
     
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  14. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    Heyup William...

    As it happens I may be selling off a couple of my units as a fund raising exercise for a mate of mine..

    If your interested !!!
     
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    The then lathe wizard at Lea Valley made a moderator for another member's Stealth that was known as the table leg for the obvious reason that he used a B&Q table leg as the body.....
     
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  16. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer and general all round nice guy

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    I have uses a crutch before now.. AND a Dyson vac tube!!!
     
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  17. RagnarHairybreeks

    RagnarHairybreeks Plays well with otters

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    I always wondered (apart from getting the threads right to tighten in the correct orientation) why moderators were almost universally symmetrical.

    Why not have your volume offset ‘south’ as it were? No getting in the way of scopes or sights.
     
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    Steved Posting Addict

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    I made a mod out of a renault 1.5 diesel oil filter some years ago.
     
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  19. Snapshot

    Snapshot Busy Member

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    They've existed for years - there was an early one for the Theoben Rapid and look at Edgun's Matador, Lelya and Leshiy - but the engineering is much more complex than a symmetrical mod as, as you note, you can't just screw them on to any old barrel as you don't know at what angle they'll end up so cost wins out.
     
  20. 1260engineer

    1260engineer The Terminator's Armourer

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    lining up the pellet ports in the baffles is a pain . ive made a few cam silencers as i call them which have worked quite well :thumb:
     
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