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to wrap or not

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by nath92, Jul 23, 2014.

  1. nath92

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    Morning gents and ladies


    Now I would if poss like your opinions please ,
    The cylinder and barrel of my s400 had some pitting the day I bought it with tiny rust spots now they don't seem to have gone any worse but I was wondering if there was anything I could do either blueing or this carbon wrap I've read about if carbon wrap is a good option where is good to buy it from , now don't get me wrong I ain't trying to cover it up and sell it , just keep myself happy with a neat looking rifle am strange that way :D
    Atb
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  2. cloverleaf

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    Personally I think carbon wrap looks bloody awful, but each to their own.. alternatives are cold bluing (some have apparently had success but it's not as good as proper hot bluing), getting the bits reblued (probably around £40, with some caveats) or replacing the affected parts (around £40 for a cylinder, £110 for the barrel). I'd certainly consider replacing the cylinder anyway if it's significantly pitted..
     
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    Cheers for the response the cylinder is worse barrel not so bad ,to ask what may be a silly question where could I buy a replacement cylinder from
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    No problem :)

    Julian at Bond Gun Accessories is usually the man to see, however I believe the cylinder is covered by the VCR act (so can't legally be sent to your home address, as a bit of tube with threads in each end is such a potentially dangerous component :rolleyes:) in light of this you might be better off having a word with your local shop.
     
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    Here's a pic of my ultra with carbon wrap cylinder, If it's done well it's a cheap fix and looks no bad:)
     
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    Cheers again clover
    And Stevie where did you buy your wrap from because in my opinion that's pretty cool :)

    Atb to you both
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  7. Stevie Darling

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    Flaming wheels on eBay mate,

    black carbon fibre vinyl wrap 0.14mm

    realistic black gloss 1500mm x 300mm £4:45, on ma phone so can't put the link up.
     
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    eBay is your best bet for the carbon film. Think I paid only 3 or 4 quid for more than enough to do the barrel and cylinder. That wasn't what I did with mine however. I only used the film to cover the silencer. I also did the barrel, but sleeved that in proper carbon tube to also beef up the weedy 12.5mm standard barrel.

    When you do the job, take the cylinder off if you can. It will make it easier to handle. Cut the film roughly to size, make sure the cylinder is smooth and clean. Carefully wrap the film around, smoothing down as you go. Allow the film to overlap, then carefully cut down through both layers of film. Peel back, pull away the excess on both layers and you'll have a near invisible join. Either put the join underneath the cylinder, or you may find it hides better if you keep it at the top, largely hidden by the barrel. Then just trim the two ends off.

    Don't try and cover the end cap that covers the air valve. It will look awful. Just leave it plain black.

    View attachment 100193
     
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    Cheers mate that's spot on I'll have a search

    Atb
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    Cheers for that mate good tips I shall do that , and that rifle of yours looks the dogs ( from what I can see )

    Atb
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    If it's done right it looks pretty good but if rushed and bubbled it looks a mess
     
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    Id be more concerned over saftey than looks as cloverleaf as pointed out if your cylinder has pitting on its time to replace get in touch with julien a new cylinder is only around £20 for the air arms range ;)
     
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    I appreciate your comment Dave when I use the word pitting its just the blueing that's broken down the metal ain't degraded any as yet , I'm not sure how thick the cylinder is and I don't think safety is an issue as yet ,but for peace of mind I may replace the cylinder and try the wrapping any way :)

    Atb
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    Try closer to £80 + rfd charges for a new cylinder from the AA spares shop.

    If you use a pump rather than an air bottle check the inside of your cylinder. Mine was a 2003 model and had only ever been filled by a pump, when I replaced the cylinder due to a blowout the inside was heavily corroded.
     
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    Heyup guys just a quick update on this after having to strip the rifle due to a leak I checked the cylinder for corrosion and inside it was mint , just the outside was untidy looking so I ordered my wrap from flamming wheels yesterday it arrived this morning and it went on the cylinder , I'm dead chuffed with the result not sure whether I'm going to do the barrel yet I will wait and see,
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    ;)
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    You can't beat the carbon wrap for the money
    All you need is a hair dryer, small stanley knife and some nail varnish remover

    Clean the area to be wrapped with the nail varnish remover

    Measure twice and cut your wrap to size
    Apply wrap
    Hair dryer to be used if things get difficult as it will soften and shrink back stretched material

    Buy the stuff of ebay as recommended and you will have plenty even if you get it wrong a couple of times

    Both my AA S4*0 have cylinder, barrel and silencer wrapped
     
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    Aye , in all honestly I balls'ed it up twice and was third time lucky shocking I know but I still got quite a bit left great stuff would reccomend it to anyone if they where inclined to use it

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