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to pcp or not to pcp ... that is the question

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Fox#1, Feb 19, 2014.

  1. Fox#1

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    Now this I understand is a question of marmite proportions. Pcp is a love or hate situation. I love break barrels, my first rifle was a break barrel and they have all been break barrels since.
    But I have a niggle at the back of my mind after firing a pcp, do I want one?
    It was a very smooth rifle no faffing with the break juat cock and fire, to quote a meerkat friend of mine "simples" but is it that simple after the hastle of refilling the tank? And dont you have to pay to get them refilled? So would it not be easier ( and
    Cheaper) to stick with break barrel? Or should I take the plunge and buy a pcp?
    Any advice would be appreciated
    Many thanks in advance
     
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    Sooner or later your buy a PCP so why not now. Yes it cost a little to fill but you will hit more. Get out of the Dark side and move into the light.
     
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    if you have someone near you that can refill a bottle to 300bar it isnt too much hassle as only costs around a fiver to get a 12 litre bottle filled and that will last you a few thousand shots. charging the rifle only takes a couple minutes.
    depends on what sort of shooting you do really... if hunting you may only need to get a bottle charged once a year. if that is the case maybe a pump would be easier.
    shooting a pcp is much easier than shooting a springer as they arnt hold sensitive, fit a bipod and you cant realy miss. having a mag fed gun means no more faffing about with pellets and reloading can be done while your still eyes on down the scope ready for a second shot.... just bare in mind though pcp's can get boring and one day you will want another springer...;)
     
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    Thanks for the replies guys. I think I will always want a springer they're just fun to shoot. what would be a good PCP to start with for pest control mostly. (You know... if I was going to abandon my beloved springers.)
     
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    Really depends on what budget you have and whether you want to buy new or s/h. Good starting rifle would be Air Arms S400 or if you want a gun with multi shot magazines then either Air Arms S510 it comes with a 10 shot magazine. But my personal favorite, as I have one is the HW100 carbine it comes with two 14 shot mags and they also include a silencer as standard but you are looking at around £550 for S/H and around £750 to £800 New.
     
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    Thanks. They were very helpful links. they've given me a lot to think about. I will give it a lot of thought and do a whole lot of research on the subject. But any advice or information will be happily and gratefuly accepted.
     
  8. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    Have the best of both worlds, buy a BSA Spitfire!

    Try looking at advert 652*** on the Gun Star website, rumour also has it that a certain John Bowkett also has some of these that have been blueprinted and tuned for a couple of hundred quid.

    The Spitfire is a PCP that is a break barrel, so go ahead, make your day!
     
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    Hi Fox,

    I am am relatively new to the airgun world, and to begin with I didn't even consider a PCP. Instead I bought a TX200 and a ProSport.
    A couple of weeks ago I took the plunge and bought my first PCP, an AA S510. I only shoot HFT at my local club and on the two occasions I have visited with my springers and PCP I can honestly say I prefer to shoot my TX200 over anything.

    The filling is easy enough and only takes a couple of minutes. The advantage of a 10 shot magazine is probably more apparent in hunting than HFT, in fact I bought a second magazine last week to cut down on the reloading over 30 lanes, and I think a single shot adaptor would be less hassle still.

    I don't mean to sound like I regret buying a PCP, in fact I plan on buying a HW100 within the next few weeks but I definitely get more satisfaction from my springers.
     
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    I'd say buy a pcp as you mention pest control,from my own experience rabbiting with a springer was rewarding skill wise but the farmer was happier when i went pcp because instead of getting a few bunnies (where the noise of the action and the disturbance re loading would scare things away) with the pcp i'd be emptying a magazine before spooking them back underground.
    So the decision realy is, do i want a working gun or a play gun.
     
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    thats the thing... a pcp in the right hands is a clinical vermin reducing machine... a springer on the other hand is purely for the hunt.
     
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    As much as I love my r10 its quite simply boring to shoot....it hits everything you point it at and for that reason it is a very good tool for hunting and FT/HFT. I recently swopped my old Diana 52 for a lovely scope BUT I do miss the challenge of shooting a springer...and that's why Im getting myself a MK1 BSA SS in .25. Ive hunted with both PCPs and Springers and Ive enjoyed using a springer so much more. I think everyone should learn how to shoot properly before moving onto a PCP.
     
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    Wow, thanks everyone for the amazing feedback. I'm just debating whether or not to take the plunge. I know its a daft question but is there a quietish springer rifle out there. I love my springer but one bunny goes down with a pellet and then all the others go down a hole. Its just a pain to have to wait so long for them to get the courage to pop out again. Thats why I am considering the PCP... but budget is tight and I'm not sure if a good PCP is in it.
     
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    whats the budget ?
     
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    Maybe from 100 to 200. Ive got a diana mod27 that id like to get revamped maybe. She's quiet but she definitely needs sorting.
     
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    What about a co2 powered XS/QB78 in .22 with a moderator. Need a bit of work to get the full potential from them, but once done, hard hitting and very quiet. Some on here will sneer at the thought of them and suggest you need to save more before buying. Some just can't get the heads round the fact, that there people around that have no more money to spend.
    I own both a TH78 and AR2079A and they are well worth every penny. I also own a BSA Super 10, and a load of springers, so I'm not saying this from a biased opinion.
     
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    Thanks for the reply. I hadn't even thought of co2. Are they much different from PCP? I'd heard they were on the "expensive" side to refill all the time. I don't want to spend a fourtune because I'm a springer guy but the farmer of a permission I got on a chicken farm to curb the growth of rabbits rats and other pests on his land said my springer was too loud and upset his chickens. So out of respect I haven't been back, until I can get a quiet rifle. Other permissions are happy with the jobs I do but they are beef and lamb farmers so the livestock is less skittish and outside so they aren't fussed at all.
    So this will only be for use on a chicken farm and probably only for use when ratting in the actual chicken shed.
     
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    Don't bother with CO2 for anything but plinking,weather changes makes the shot count go all over the place and you won't be able to hit much
     
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    Thanks for the heads up I'll avoid co2 then.
     
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    My 78 is running at 11.2 at the moment. If it turns snowy, I'll fit a larger TP seal and it will still run at around that figure. I pay 50p a 12g bulb. Does me 50-60 shots for a pair. I used mine ratting all through 2012/13 snow with no loss of kill rate. They just need fettling a bit when new.
     

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