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Thoughts On The Smith & Wesson M&p 15-22?

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by 300bhp/ton, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. 300bhp/ton

    300bhp/ton Engaging Member

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    Anyone got one of these? Online reviews look pretty good. UK prices look horrendous vs the USA :( :(

    Anything similar that anyone would recommend?

    Also, does anyone know what the different variants are of this gun? Sportsman Gun Centre list 7 variants. The different colours and ones including a red dot are fine. But anyone know the differences otherwise? Think I've seen at least 4 descriptions/titles, but nothing to tell me what the differences are, just a spread of prices.
     
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    I wasn't impressed to be honest, I know some people have had them as club guns & they've never gone wrong (even with the slamfire recall) but its plastic, feels plastic & felt flimsy like plastic to me.
    I know the Kriss is more money but you can tell where its gone, feels like & has all the control's of a proper AR.
     
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    As rich79 says it works and is reliable but feels flimsy and light weight like a toy. Tippmannn Arms is much better imho.
     
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    Crap mate, brother inlaw has one, cheap nasty things.
    Much better guns available
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    Thanks for the heads up, anything you'd recommend?
     
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    Since posting this tread I stumbled across the Kriss. Like the look, quite a bit more money, but should be doable. Even more so if any of the sellers offer finance. Having trouble finding many people selling them though, and nothing remotely local. Do you know who the importer is for them or if anyone in the Beds/Bucks/Herts area stocks them?
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    Are you anywhere near Havant? Firing solutions do them.
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    Sorry, thought you said Hampshire, the importer is apparently a company called Shield who also import S&W!
     
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    So doing a LOT of PR and 3 gun let me start by saying no one uses a MP15-22 around here. I have seen plenty and shot a few but most owners either just have them to play or for wives/children. Great for chucking lots of ammo down range, but not tremendously accurate and have had some issues.

    if it’s GOT to be a AR clone you have quite a few options . Chiappa M4 (kinda OK and very nearly a AR but not quite), KRISS and Tipmann (budget AR platforms :thumb:), then a big £ step up to Northwest custom, LANTAC & CMMG (proper AR uppers/lowers and internals and better quality barrels).

    if it has to be a Black rifle but not necessarily an AR clone then the SIG 522 makes a Very Good VFM buy (but it’s a bit long in the tooth now and SIG no longer make them), CZ 512 tac is a bit of an oddball but VERY capable or a custom built Ruger 10/22 using Volquartsen parts, or my fave and what I now own, the Grand Power Taranis22.
     
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    I tried a club members last year, the main thing that stood out for me was it had possibly the worst trigger I've ever used on a rimmy!
    After the third shot it was all I could think about & the target went out the window.
     
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    agreed as std it was very heavy and ‘grunt proof’, but it was never a ‘target’ rifle it was designed as a training rifle for ‘mericans..... Nuff said.

    I was guided through reworking mine and it broke smoothly at 3lbs. I believe mine was anomaly as it was competition winning accurate. It’s current owner is VERY pleased! ;)
     
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    Here's my ruger sr 22
    20180522_180216.jpg

    If I had the money I would go for AR
    Atb
    Mart
     
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    Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

    It hasn’t got to be an AR or even tactical. I’m a little torn. Never had one before.

    Whatever I get it needs the ability to take down a crow/rabbit. So anything with acceptable accuracy will fit the bill here.

    I do like the idea of a semi-auto though and some rapid fire ability. I also have no issues at all with the tactical look.

    I don’t know if I should go cheap for something like a Marlin 60 or Rugar 10/22 of some kind. But happy to spend more to get nicer/more fun. Ability to fit a moderator/suppressor would be a bonus too.

    If the S&P was priced like it is in the States I think it’d be fine. But based on the info in this thread it is no longer a contender.

    If I don’t go for a semi-auto then I think a classic looking under lever will be the choice. But something able to send 20-30 bullets down range in little time has an appeal all of its own.

    But not at the expense of a dreadful trigger or awful accuracy and build quality.
     
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    Puts you in a completely different market place then.......:thumb:

    anschutz LR - very inexpensive and effective vermin tool.

    CZ LR - (2nd hand) also as above

    iMHO steer clear of Rugers unless you want to spend lots to make it accurate and reliable

    If you can find a nice Beretta/Voere they are also nice hunting rifles.

    probably the nicest smoothest new one available at the moment is the Savage A22.

    A new CZ 512 is also a good bet.
     
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    I am amazed at some of the responses above, the MP15-22 is simply the best option at the price point and for reliability.

    I bought 5 for the club, literally they have shot a milllion rounds over 5 years, not one issue and they rarely if ever get cleaned.

    There are higher quality guns for sure but not at the price point and DONT EVER touch Walther Umarex or any of the other tactical clones, EVER! you get me LOL!
     
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    I brought the scar clone 22 lr brand new what a bag of s**t. Looked smart but was useless.
    Did all the mods to help cycle and eject better but was still no good.
    Atb
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    Ive seen most of them, clovers RM8 thread springs to mind, they've all got drinking straw barrels with a sleeve on, nasty triggers & mazak cast bodies, can't imagine much longevity from any of them.
     
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    I have one - had it for quite a while now

    Yes, it is light and has plenty of plastic / poly in the build

    But, it has never broke, jammed or let me down - even when I took the pi$$ and use cheap and dirty rounds
    It hits where I aim and is loads of fun to use

    For the money, IMHO its a bargain.
    Each to their own, there are more solid and better built options out there, but they are much heavier and more expensive.

    Compared to a Ruger, its super easy to field strip and re assemble.

    If it ever broke, given how long I have had it and how much use it has had, I would get it repaired or immediately buy another in a heart beat.
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    Most lever actions are American which means anti lawsuit triggers, I have a marlin 39a & really it's just a plinker for 25-50yds, I've been using blazer standard through it & rested at 50yds it struggles to stay below a 2" group.
    No doubt some decent match subs would improve this but even if it halved the group size it's still no good for hunting (plus you can't fit a mod because of the mag tube), Ruger do a lever action called the 96/22, its basically a lever action 10/22 so I'd imagine alot of the same mods fit like mags etc.
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    ....and to think for a while, I was actually considering a Walther PPQ....:facepalm:

    got a Brand new GP K22 for less than the PPQ anyway and it knocks spots off it. :nana:
     

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