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Thinking of getting a shotgun

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by jonnywise, Jun 7, 2014.

  1. jonnywise

    jonnywise Well-Known Member

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    Hi
    am thinking of getting backing in to shot gunning, after 15 year break.
    a mate of mine recommend a 12g beretta silver pigeon sporter
    any thoughts ?
    jonny
     
  2. r10hunter

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    They are great guns. You won't get a much better all round gun.

    What type of shooting will you do, would you be better off spending your budget on a couple of guns of different types rather than one expensive one???

    Do you do a lot of decoying a semi auto would be a bonus.

    Do you do general vermin control and not want to wear ear plugs or disturb people and animals, a silenced shotgun would be a bonus.

    Maybe you do some ferreting or ratting and a .410 would be handy.

    Might you get invited wildfowling a 3 1/2 inch chamber semi auto would be a huge help.
    Cheers Andy
     
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  3. scoop

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    Great guns
    i missed out on one last year and been kicking myself since
     
  4. engraver

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    Ive had 2 silver pigeons 3's one I bought brand new, and shot everything going with it, pheasants,partridge,woodcock,woodies,crows, and clays in fact I came a couple of shots short of straightening a hard sporting layout once with it, with a score or 48 ex 50.

    I sold that gun like an idiot due to my inpatience to buy a much more expensive gun that shot no better in fact worse.

    I then bought a silver pigeon ltd edition with wood like an EELL grade, as well as it looked the stock dimentions were diferent from my first gun slightly and for some reason I didn't shoot that gun as well.

    Ive just gone back to Browning as I think they fit me a bit better, but I must say that first silver pigeon 3 I had was my best shooting gun Ive ever owned in quite a lot of guns.

    But Ive found the older silver pigeons seem to be a bit slimmer and fit me better, thinner stock dimentions, If you can get a game gun they make a brilliant pigeon gun, if you want to shoot clays go for a 30" sporter.

    Some people just fit Brownings others Berettas but I can confirm both guns will hold value in fact they will go up, I just sold my LTD edition for £400 more than I paid, but like an idiot let my first one go for £950 cased mint and it was a 30" sporter, so If you can find a fool like me willing to part with one for anything like that kid of money you wont go far wrong, because I got £2500 for the LTD I had.

    Failing that you can get a Browning 525 for about a grand these days and they will never let you down, another brilliant gun.

    I suggest you go to a gunshop and mount both guns in a mirror and look where your pupil sits, it needs to be bang on the rib, if your above or below the Rib the gun would need alterations for you, but one or the other should fit if you average build probably Browning, if your on the big side, Beretta may suit more.
     
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  5. jonnywise

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    Hi
    will be shooting pigeons,rabbits mainly,but would like to do some clay as well.
    never thought of buying a auto, you get a extra shot I take it.?
    jonny
     
  6. r10hunter

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    Yes an extra shot. Also,

    For semi autos:
    An extra cartridge is just pushed in the tube every time you take a shot no need to break the gun.
    Less recoil good for decoying where you often fire with a less than perfect stance.

    Can be larger chambered so large loads can be used for very long range wildfowl etc.

    They often have a scope rail so a running game scope and lamp will just drop on for night shooting, setting up a lamp on a double barrel is harder.

    A sling is easer to fit so good if your hands are full or you need to do other stuff and keep your gun safe on your back.

    Against semi autos:
    Not as good for clays as O/U
    Autos Spit empty shells all over.
    Can't really be used if you get a game shooting invite.
    Not as easy for it to be seen you are safe when walking around shooting with mates etc.
    You can only use one choke. In a double barrel you can use an open and a tighter choke.
    Harder to clean.



    For most of my vermin control and decoying I use a pump action silenced 20 bore.
    No need for hearing protection, it does not disturb people or animals as much, it does not damage my gundogs hearing when sat in a hide together, a lamp or night vision is easy to fit as is a sling, it does not cause as much disturbance to the vermin and you get more shooting.
    On the down side they weigh more and are harder to shoot if you have not done a lot of shotgunning, are hard to clean, can't be used for clays or game shooting.

    I only use the double barrels when shooting in a group or if I know the shooting will be fast like roost shooting in high wind.
    The semi auto is used if I need to fire large amounts of shot.


    Cheers Andy
     
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    It amazes me the amount of peep's who say 'semi-auto's spit empties everywhere'.. agreed, they do, but wherever I go I see just as many chucked out onto the deck by the o/u brigade.. I see very few bothering to catch them as they eject.. and it annoys me when they walk off to the next stand without picking all of them up!. I carry a small telescopic pole with a magnet on the end ('cos I canna bend) to pick mine up 5 or 6 at a time.. and usually pick some of theirs as well!.
     
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    iam thinking of selling my urika2 semi auto beretta looking for around £700
    its the wood version
     
  9. Trampilot

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    My dad used a Beretta 686 Special Sporter for about 25 years without a single thing going wrong - 100 shots every week. Eventually sold it and tried a Miroku and Browning but didn't like either. Went back to a Beretta 682 I think which wasn't anywhere as near as good quality as an old Beretta. Then he came across an earlier version of the 686 Special Sporter in very good condition and got it. Hasn't looked back.

    Bascially Beretta's live a very long time.

    I use a Lincoln Premier 29" MC. Suits me - got it for £600 new but they didn't have a Beretta in stock and this fitted me.
     
  10. Paul Cann

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    I have a very nice W&S 810 3 shot semi I can let go for £350 if you want something to get you going, I had a silver pig and agree that they are an excellent choice but not something I would want to go in the field with too often as I wouldn't want to scratch it or get it dirty :)
     
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    Go for pal i have an aya no2 sbs 12g and a pedretti 410 folder the aya is an expensive tool but i was lucky but my shootys were given to me. But both have there uses i tried clays once on the farm with the 410 lol barn door springs to mind.
     

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