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Theoben Eliminator?

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by marlever357, May 10, 2012.

  1. marlever357

    marlever357 Engaging Member

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    Hi Guys

    I have a spare variation on my ticket and have thought about changing it over to FAC Air Rifle as I have noticed that used rifles such as Theoben Eliminators can be had for the same kind of money as a nice 12ftlb springer.

    First of all,has anybody used an Eliminator and if so are they nice,accurate and well built rifles?

    Also,when it comes to changing the variation over to air,do I have to state the calibre and action type (break barrel)?

    And finally,What calibre would be the best choice in an Eliminator,I prefer .177 in 12ftlbs?

    Thanks for your help.

    Paul.:up:
     
  2. knighthawk

    knighthawk Post Whore

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    I had one in .22 cracking gun and easy to service..but be warned there bloody hard to cock at anything over 28ft lbs... I ran mine at 21 ft lbs and it shot sweet and was easy to cock..Go for one you wont look back..
     
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    Don't bother with .177 FAC, waste of air/effort. With a .22 at 20+ fpe you'll be getting .177-like trajectories until you use very heavy pellets.

    I run my Axsor at 20fpe with AA Fields, not had anything get up after being hit by one and swapping from a 12 fpe .177 doesn't require any thought regarding aimpoints as they're the same.
     
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    If i had a FAC i'd probably get an eliminator as like you said they are cheap. I think at the high fps over 1000, a FAC rated .177 would shoot at the pellets might become unstable and have erratic accuracy.
     
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    At those velocities a .177 becomes very unstable and you're approaching supersonic speed - the crack is almighty!
     
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    Hi Mate

    How hard is "hard to cock"?

    Someone that I was friends with a long time ago had a Webley Patriot,I had a few shots with his rifle and if I remember correctly was a bit of a piggy to cock,do you think that the Eliminator is the same or worse?

    I didn`t know that you can change the power level of the Eliminator,I thought that is was factory set and sealed,end of?

    Thanks.
     
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    Hi Buddy

    What about .20,I am a big fan of .177 in 12ftlbs as I prefer faster,flatter flying projectiles?

    Would a .20 Eliminator shoot flatter than a 12ftlbs .177?

    Cheers.
     
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    What about .20,would that hold true at high fps?
     
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    Is there any air rifles that can break the speed of sound?
     
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    I'm guessing a .20 would be fine at FAC level, may want to check with others on the forum though. Also the fill level of air in theoben gas rams can be altered by a valve at rear of the cylinder.. assume the eliminator is the same. It would have stronger seals e.t.c to cope with high compression. Dont know what the max is.. by the sounds of things, 28ftlbs is about as high as you'd want it to be set at.
     
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    There deffinatly harder to cock at full power than the patriot ..but you dont get the harsh recoil of the patriot and yes you can turn them up and down with the right pump and hose..Go for a .22 and shoot Bisley Magnums ..you wont look back mate 1/2 at 50 yards not a problem..
     
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    This isn't a good idea, really; the accuracy of the rifle will be affected by the transition to supersonic speeds as they are not designed for ballistic flight.
     
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    Blimey..I didn`t think that would be possible with a recoiling air rifle (1moa),maybe a pcp,yeah,you learn something new everyday.LOL.
    Thanks for that.
     
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    OK,bit like a .308 round going subsonic at just under 900 yards,you tend to lose your good grouping after that.
     
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    There is not much recoil at all..more like a thud backwards,,the velocity heps with the acuracy too...hopefully I will get one again in the future
    ..
     
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    Yeah,good luck with that,hope you do.

    What about the Crusader,have you used one of those?
     
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    I had an eliminator when they first came out years ago, weighed a tonne and had so much recoil it broke the xhairs in my scope!
     
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    must have been something wrong with it as I have shot a few and they all was great to shoot..
     
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    The earlier models became known for it i believe.
     
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    My first fac air was an Eliminator in 22, beautiful looking gun and one i always wanted to own, too shoot was certainly an art. I was more than happy with it but after trying pcp fac air for me it was redundant. Its a very big rifle , heavy , not easy to lump around in the field( i have used slr's and they were easier to carry:p:p) . cocking them isnt a problem and i put a simmons wtc on top so no scope problems.

    Would i buy one again -no
    Do i think anyone with FAC air should own one at one stage -yes

    If you have a spare slot, always fancied owning one( and they are bargains) get one and then that scratch doesnt need itching anymore( thats what i did)

    I eventually sold mine ( with a little trouble if being honest, as i mentioned an acquired taste) but im glad i did own one
    atb

    craig
     

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