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The point of shooting a gun

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by busanga, May 11, 2015.

  1. busanga

    busanga Busy Member

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    if the point of shooting a gun is to hit the target, why do people go back to springers because it is too easy to hit the target with a pcp...make the target smaller ???
     
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    Springers are fun, and require a different skill set to shoot well.
    Also, there is a lot to be said for not being dependent on an pump / air tank

    Oh, if you think PCP's are easy to shoot, move the target back to 70+ yards and shoot standing up.
    Thats a whole new ball game
     
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  3. busanga

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    that i understand perfectly (and agree) just i see so many comments that pcp was too easy to hit target.. well if it is live target that is good, if it is paper target ...choose a more difficult target :)
     
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    70plus yards hmmm i wouldnt waste a pellet , no reasons for anyone shooting that distance
     
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    busanga i think you should try both and then tell us :)
     
  6. BiggaJ

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    PCP's are not that easy, all guns are limited by the operator.

    I feel it is safe to assume the more expensive the gun the better it should be from not only a quality but also from an accuracy perspective however, if the numpty holding can't hit a barn door at 20 paces its a little academic. So many factors come into play with PCP's as they do with springers .... not least getting your breathing right and the set up, stance etc. correct for the individual.

    It all takes great practice but in general terms shooting from a bench with a rest .... Yes PCP's out to the usual 30/40 yards are deadly accurate ... but so's a good springer.
     
  7. JSB888

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    PCPs are easier to shoot effectively than springers, but I agree, I know some people that couldn’t hit a barn door at 10 yards with the most expensive finely tuned PCP, so would have no chance with a springer.

    I went back to springers, not just because they develop shooting skill, but they are self sufficient and because springers have a soul. You have to become part of them to shoot them effectively and you feel like you and the gun have achieved the shot / kill. PCPs are just a soulless tool, and I’ve never felt any attachment to them. Just my opinion.
     
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    its a different ball game imo..im no seasoned shooter but i can sit with my multi shot pcp, never lift my head and watch pellet sit on top of pellet...occasionally take my dads springer (old hw 80) and the joy is sitting and taking each shot and the recoil one at a time..both satisfying to shoot but in different ways, really is like an old mule kicking away that needs taming :D
     
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    I agree springers have soul.

    I think the OP may wish he had not started this thread lol .... all good fun though.
     
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    I think a lot of posts are made that are easily misinterpreted.

    I have shot some ridiculously tiny groups. Sometimes I have posted them on here. At no time have I claimed to be able to reproduce them on demand, in anything but perfect conditions, or when shooting unsupported, yet once or twice the inevitable "let's see you do that in an HFT comp" comment arises.

    In perfect conditions I can group my springers pretty much as well (or as badly, depending on your perspective) as my PCPs. In all other conditions, I can't.

    I usually use map pin heads as targets, on the basis of small targets increasing your concentration and focus. Some people think that's me trying to be a smarty-pants. It isn't, but blatting away at a traditional ringed centre bull target never gets as tight results for me as shooting at a tiny target, so I either use map pin heads or I shoot one pellet to create a hole on a blank sheet of copy paper and use the pellet hole as my target.

    I've used pellets, dried peas and similar as targets too, with both PCPs and springers.

    I enjoy both but I prefer to think of one as 'less difficult' rather than 'easier' ;)
     
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    Thats what I do too, I find my groups are awful on 'real' targets.

    There's an old saying that goes something along the line of 'you should aim for the single hair over the animals heart. That way, if you miss the hair, you hit the heart. If you aim for the heart and miss, you miss everything'
     
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    A lot of shooters all too quick to say a pcp is too easy of course it is if you've got your ass on a comfy chair and your gun resting on a bag :rolleyes:
     
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    You get up close and personal with springers and you get the feel of them, you know how they tick, you know what they like and what they don't like, you know where they need a fettle here and a polish there, it's a Lurve Thang!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Sometimes it's about the journey, not the destination.
    I do a lot of archery, with my compound bow I can hit a paper plate at 70 meter's with my longbow I'd be lucky to hit the straw boss but I still love the challenge of shooting the longbow, the feel and the sense of history.
    Same with my springer, It's more accurate than I am, I just have to work a little harder at it :)
     
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    Aim small miss small.
     
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    Shoot what you like best and don't worry about whether the next person agrees with your choice. For me it's springers, but that's not because it makes me a "better" shooter than the next guy (as some of you will see at the meet, no doubt). It's just that I find it more agreeable than shooting a PCP.
     
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    I love my pcp's, Hw100kt and airwolf, they are pellet stackers when I do my bit and pest killers when I'm at work. My springers, hw95k and hw97kt, are pellet stackers when I do my bit and occasional pest killers too. What I like about shooting is the pleasure of hitting the target and getting to know each gun, regardless of power plant. I love the recoil and life of the springers and the fact that they will kick me in the ass if I get complacent. I love that I can take a springer apart and play with it and see improvements when I put them back together. Most of all, I just like to shoot stuff. Maybe a little simplistic for some, but I'm never joining the Olympic shooting team, and I'm never hitting a polo at 70m, but as long as I enjoy shooting, and the challenges of it, I don't think about it too much, I just concentrate on enjoying myself doing it.
     
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    Therein lies the argument - that little word "if". Perhaps the point of shooting a gun is to enjoy yourself!
     
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    Absolutely. It is amazing how a small target concentrates the mind.
    My favourite plinking target is a line of 10 peanuts at 30 yards. I never get the same shot consistency at a bull on a paper target! (I do on rat heads though :cool:).
     
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    Yes, there is
    The pleasure o f doing it
    Hitting firebirds past 50 yards is great fun for example
    Hitting a small spinner give me a even bigger sense of enjoyment
     

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